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100,000 Edits · Episodes Project

New Feature For Characters

I think we should put the year that the character was introduced in the info box. What do you guys think? Romans 8:28 -Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ><> (talk)

It already says that in the infobox. Skylerbuck (talk) 12:51, 10 March 2013 (MDT)
No it doesn't. At least, I don't see it. Romans 8:28 -Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ><> (talk)
It already says this:

Matthew Parker Matthewparker.png Number of Episodes 39 First Episode 655: The Inspiration Station, Part 1 (2010) Last Episode 726: Push the Red Button (2012),

and it shows the years. Skylerbuck (talk) 19:34, 10 March 2013 (MDT)

Album 57 Cover

What happened to the news post and album cover? I am really disappointed. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Focus asked me to take it down for now, so i did, it will return on Friday (if you had looked at the change logs you'd know that) and if you want to be private don't log into your account anybody can look back and see who made an edit, signing your edit is just a common decency Reddo (talk) 23:45, 13 March 2013 (MDT)
it's now returned Reddo (talk) 09:29, 16 March 2013 (MDT)

Charles Thompson discussion page

an ip user posted something weird on the Charles Thompson discussion page. is this spam? if it is can someone fix it? Sing4Jesus (talk) 13:18, 24 March 2013 (MDT)

thanks! Sing4Jesus (talk) 12:07, 30 March 2013 (MDT)


~ Jason ~ (talk) 12:02, 18 August 2013 (MDT)

MoS Questions

I noticed that on almost all of the articles, the first mention of the pagename is not bolded, but on some it is. I couldn't find any MoS, so which one is supposed to be on articles? Also, every time AIO is mentioned, shouldn't it be "Adventures in Odyssey" instead of being abbreviated "AIO"? These are both just MoS questions, so if you have one, could someone please link me to it? Drewlzoo(talk)

One more question - shouldn't all articles, specifically ones about characters and actors, start by saying what the article is about? The Jaime Wentworth article, for example, is very confusing to me. I have no idea if Jaime Wentworth is an actor or a character. I can figure it out by reading the rest of the article, but it's not very convenient. I edited Kevin Killerman so that it says at the beginning of the article that he's a character. I know I'm a total newbie here, so sorry for just coming in and making all these suggestions. I know how awkward it can be. :S Drewlzoo(talk)

For the bolded names, it looks to me like articles are supposed to be like that. I've seen a bunch of non-stub articles that are like that, so I'm going to try and fix the rest if that's okay. Drewlzoo(talk)

I think you can tell if it is an actor or a character by seeing if it says "voiced by". Skylerbuck (talk) 15:08, 29 March 2013 (MDT)
Yes, like I said above, you can easily figure out that they are an actor or character, but it really should be changed. On Wikipedia for example. The Wal-Mart article starts by saying it's a retail store. It doesn't start by saying what it's history is. If you still think it doesn't matter, that's fine. I just thought I should explain it better. :) Drewlzoo(talk)
Also, someone should really write a MoS. D: Drewlzoo(talk)
I agree we really should have one, I\ve been thinking for a while we need a more consistent way of doing things but I usually handle more the the features end of things and I've been busy with some things in real life. Would you be willing to help us write Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:Manual of Style? Reddo (talk) 15:18, 30 March 2013 (MDT)
Sure, I'd love to. I've written a couple of them before, and I could easily adapt one of them to fit this wiki. I'll try and post it here sometime tonight. Drewlzoo(talk)
I just wrote the general MoS. There should still be some written for more specific articles (like episodes, albums, actors, etc.). It's mainly based off Wikipedia's MoS. Honestly, it really doesn't go along with most of the articles here. It's totally fine with me if you change it, but this is what most wikis use. Here's the link - (User:Drew1200/MoS). Thanks for letting me do this. :) Drewlzoo(talk)
I think that the part about other languges shouldn't be wrong. What if someone wants to use a famous phrase in another language? Such as "Au con trier"? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~
By US English, I meant US English grammar. That's a good point, though. I reworded it so that it's not so confusing. Drewlzoo(talk)

Thanks :) - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Do you guys approve of this? If you do, I can start formatting all the articles to fit it correctly. Drewlzoo(talk)
Sure I think you can, it might take a while though. Skylerbuck (talk) 11:33, 2 April 2013 (MDT)
Yeah, it will take awhile to get all of the articles following it. Drewlzoo(talk)

I like the information on the MoS so far. I added some potential guidelines for episode pages for plot and quotes. It might be good to have some sort of guidelines for character pages too? Changes to what I did are ok. I really like the idea of a MoS though. --

~ Jason ~ (talk) 16:20, 29 July 2013 (MDT)

New Feature

I think we should create a list of in-active users. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~ 12:30, 28 March 2013 (MDT)

I disagree, it would be hard to keep up to date and serves no purpose Reddo (talk) 15:11, 30 March 2013 (MDT)
Au con trier, monsieur. People might get mad at the users for not answering questions, not realizing that the user was inactive. And it is cool to know who is inactive. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

I just realized

We're almost at 1000 users. We have 995. Close to a milestone. Skylerbuck (talk) 21:04, 30 March 2013 (MDT)

Wow, that's a lot of users! Drewlzoo(talk)
Hwee-hwoo! (Impressed whistling noise) - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~
1,005! - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~
Hey, Guys! I'm a little new, but odyssey is my absolute favorite thing and I use AIOWIKI all of the time, so I figured I may as well help share info, since I LOVE odyssey SO much. Could you give me a few pointers?! :) - User:Icecream57 Welcome to Adventures in Odyssey Wiki!

We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Reddo (talk) 19:18, 1 December 2013 (MST)

Okay, thanks! how do I start, and what are a few things that I NEED to know about editing? - User:Icecream57 (Welcome to Adventures in Odyssey Wiki!

We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Reddo (talk) 19:18, 1 December 2013 (MST))

add new topic link

the link doesnt work. i dont know enough about the wiki to fix it. Sing4Jesus (talk) 11:17, 10 April 2013 (MDT)

Fixed it. --Spangineer (talk) 12:27, 10 April 2013 (MDT)


need to make... I don't know... Episode packs for this website. It is exhausting to put "Her favorite episodes are Prisoners of Fear, Part 1, Prisoners of Fear, Part 2, and Prisoners of Fear, Part 3." What if we could just put Prisoners of Fear, or something like that. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Actually you can Prisoners of Fear (Parts 1-3) it would only link to part 1, although you can click to all the parts by clicking next episode. Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 16:15, 24 April 2013 (MDT)
Ah, thanks! - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~ 10:07, 25 April 2013 (MDT)

next air date

i think there should be the next time an episode is supposed to air listed with all the other stuff on an episode page. Sing4Jesus (talk) 13:15, 24 April 2013 (MDT)

There actually is, you just have to click the (show)button on the last aired function in the Infobox. Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 16:12, 24 April 2013 (MDT)

recent changes page

when i try and go to the recent changes page a unresponsive script thing comes up. i pasted the script name in below, can someone fix this?

Sing4Jesus (talk) 13:21, 24 April 2013 (MDT)

It's working fine for me, if it still keeps doing that ask Reddo, since he has access to the server, it should be no big deal though, websites often have errors from time to time. Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 16:18, 24 April 2013 (MDT)

Chat box

I think there should be a chat box or something so users could chat online instead of carrying on a conversation on the user pages. Just a suggestion :) AshleyWhittaker (talk) 15:38, 25 April 2013 (MDT)

Well are a wiki not a chatting site, feel free to chat on your user pages, although you can do that on one of 3 wonderful AIO forums, Too, CC, and SS. Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2013 (MDT)
Yeah, I know. I'm on the ToO and SS, but I just thought it would be cool if we could chat right from AIOWiki :) AshleyWhittaker (talk) 11:04, 26 April 2013 (MDT)
Okay, pardon me for interrupting, Ashley, but this isn't a chat site, or a dating site, and I'm sure you know that. I understand where your coming from, but I don't agree. (I hope I don't sound like I'm trying to sound like an Admin) - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~ 11:36, 26 April 2013 (MDT)
*sighs* Whatever LOL JK Yeah, I know and I totally understand. AshleyWhittaker (talk) 15:20, 26 April 2013 (MDT)


Can an Admin change Patrick's name to St./Saint Patrick? Thanks. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~ 10:52, 4 May 2013 (MDT)

I think Patrick is fine, plus then we would have to create all new categories. Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 20:02, 5 May 2013 (MDT)
Now I think that would be easy with Mabel. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

My only objection is that even the episode title says Patrick instead of say Saint Patrick:A Heart Afire, Part 1. As a matter of changing categories, that is no big deal it can be done fairly easily. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 13:07, 24 December 2013 (MST)


Your making it impossible for Phone users to stay on Desktop!? I tried going to several pages--after I switched to regular. Yeah, didn't work.

An Update

As some of you may have noticed I am not been editing as much lately, the reason for this is I am trying to get my grades up from an 85 percent. I am also trying to further my relationship with God. Also I have track which I placed 4th in the Saskatchewan Prairie Spirit Conference in the 3000m.With all of this I'm still managing to keep up with spam, my summer will be even more busy, so I might not be editing much within the next few months, although I will get on as much as I feel is right. For now, Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 18:57, 24 May 2013 (MDT)

mediawiki 1.21 update

I updated the wiki's software today to the latest version, please let me know of any bugs you find so I can fix them, thanks Reddo (talk) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (MDT)

Whenever I am logged out, the Games and Albums categories do not work. It seems like it is trying to get the mobile version for some reason. AIOCREfan ~ (talk) 17:17, 22 June 2013 (MDT)

Summer 2013 to-do list

There is some things that I would like to be completed on the wiki over the next few months.

I am creating a page for the summer editing projects, so we can keep progress.

I do realize people are busy in the summer, (as am I), although I still want to to get some things done throughout the wiki.

Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:Summer 2013 Editing Project

Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 23:17, 21 June 2013 (MDT)

Album Release Countdown

What if we added an official countdown for Adventures in Odyssey's Album #57. Counting down the Months, Weeks, Days and Hours. Is this something that can be added? I was told by that Album 57 will be coming out in October, so, I thought the countdown might be helpful.

Finally got the font to look right... I'm new here. :) ~* KniftyKnitPicks *~ (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2013 (MDT)

Welcome KniftyKnitPicks, did they happen to mention a date in October when it comes out? also that's only for the album version, the digital version comes out sometime in August although we don't know when, We also don't know when it's supposed to start airing on the radio so we can't do a countdown for that either Reddo (talk) 17:54, 6 July 2013 (MDT)

"The Launch?"

I noticed PeachyKeen put something about an episode called "The Launch" on the Future Album 58 page. Do we have any evidence of this? I would have undone it, but I wanted to make sure. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

It was announced on the AIO Facebook page. Peachey Keen (talk) 12:14, 18 July 2013 (MDT)

What was that Summer Projects page?

- Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

todays episode

shouldnt there be a todays episode box for the episodes on rhemacatchup? Sing4Jesus (talk) 08:43, 12 August 2013 (MDT)

No because it is not official. Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 13:37, 12 August 2013 (MDT)

New Infobox help

Sometimes once I add the new Infobox, it says the rating bar isn't allowed for episodes that haven't aired yet. I can't igure out what I did wrong or how to fix it. One example is Something Old, Something New, Part 2. If someone could tell me how to prevent this from happening I'd be grateful.--

~ Jason ~ (talk) 16:36, 12 August 2013 (MDT)

I would wait until Reddo returns. Skylerbuck (Male, Canadian, Admin) (talk) 17:05, 12 August 2013 (MDT)
I nearly have it figured out, just double checking on the test page. Aiow 17:27, 12 August 2013 (MDT)
OK I think it is all working now. The template still had album 55 coded in to block the rating, as if it was unaired. Aiow 17:33, 12 August 2013 (MDT)

MoS Character Pages

I think it would be nice to have set guidelines for what we want in character pages. Right now each character is pretty much different from everyone else. It would be nice to have more of a structured outline that each character page follows. I edited Jack Allen a little bit today. I thought maybe Jack could be a model/guinea pig to decide how to format/what info should be included in the character pages. If there's any suggestions or what not please add it here for discussion.--
Isaiah 40:3131but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.
~ Jason ~ (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2013 (MDT)
It looks good! Some of the writing on the page sounds kind of weird, but as far as formatting goes, I say stick with it! Gooey98 ~ (talk) 13:10, 8 November 2013 (MST)

Novacom "family tree"

Someone should make a page which shows the "family tree" of Novacom, based on what Mitch said in Grand Opening, Part 2. I'd do it, except I don't know the formatting. Gooey98 ~ (talk) 22:08, 26 October 2013 (MDT)

What's Up

With a bunch of characters having bad categories that are incorrectly spelled? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Could you provide some examples, please? Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 18:19, 9 December 2013 (MST)
Silvia Smouse, Abominable Turkey, Agent Billings, Mr. Hernsby to name a few. Possible it's with ALL characters. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~
Wow, I never caught that and took me forever to see it. That is an infobox template mistake. I'll attempt to go fix it. Thanks for pointing that out, you're quite observant. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 19:00, 9 December 2013 (MST)
Check.svg Done If you don't see it come up try clearing your cache. If it still isn't corrected let us know because as far as I know it should be changed. Again, good work Sunnys. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 19:22, 9 December 2013 (MST)
A bunch of people still have them; what do I need to do to fix it? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~ Oh, and thanks!

I have a purge button but I don't think you do; however, whenever Reddo does something with server, it will fix all of them. (I blanked on what its called) Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 20:52, 11 December 2013 (MST)

Adding List

Hey, I noticed the ToO has a top posters list. Could we make something like that? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Further input would be necessary but my opinion is no. We had a rash of cosmetic issues on this wiki a little while back. I was guilty of it and by cosmetic issues I mean worrying about signatures, polls, etc. It just blew up the recent changes for non-contextual edits. I liken the top edit thing to this, because it will become a competition to see who has the most edits. And trust me I get it, I did it. We want to have as many edits as Reddo and Erwin, but I have now see that it doesn't matter how many edits but the quality of them. (hence why over 1000 of mine have been deleted). That is simply my take on it but I welcome more input. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2013 (MST)
Ah, agreed. Diiiidn't think of that. I just thought it would be kind of fun, but yeeeeah. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Question about Glennall's Betrayal

For anyone else who has read the book, are John Avery Whitaker, Jack Allen and Connie Kendall in them? In the Volume 2 of Passages (The version with the last 3 books in one) they are not. Are they in the books that are singled? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frederick (talkcontribs)

Merry CHRISTmas everyone!

Remember Jesus' birth. Merry Christmas! - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~


Hey, someone should take the valentines in this link and crop the characters for images for the characters pages. It'd be awesome to have winter versions of the characters. (I'd do it but haven't been able to find the time. And it always turns out worse than I like.)

Link to Valentines --

~ Jason ~ (talk) 12:58, 1 February 2014 (MST)

Got them up. --
Isaiah 40:3131but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.
~ Jason ~ (talk) 17:06, 1 February 2014 (MST)
Awesome, thanks for doing that, I literally had the document open in photoshop and was editing when my cousin showed up and I left, come back and you're already done it :) Reddo (talk) 21:31, 1 February 2014 (MST)

downtime on 2/19?

All this morning, I was receiving a service unavailable error. Just as a note, wasn't sure what was up.<div class="tip" style="display: inline-block;">Proverbs 22:99A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor.</div> Elementus Green 15:22, 19 February 2014 (MST)

The same thing happened all day yesterday (3/5). Sing4Jesus (talk) 04:12, 6 March 2014 (MST)

OAC devotionals

On the OAC daily devotionals there is a Bible verse that goes along a certain episode. I checked, and it's not the same as the one listed as the Bible verse on here. Is there a place that the second one could be put? Sing4Jesus (talk) 06:41, 2 March 2014 (MST)

Candid Conversations with Connie

I couldn't find anything on the website about this. Proof? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Shouldn't this be on the talk page for the book? Anyway, I didn't see anything on "the website" but AIOupdate consistently provides accurate information before most people know about it, so there's no reason to doubt them on this one. I think they have a source at Focus...Gooey98 ~ (talk) 18:25, 14 March 2014 (MDT)
Besides, who'd go to the trouble of creating a cover and imitating Gary Locke's exact art style, including the extremely painstaking digital coloring process, for a fake? TigerShadow (talk) 20:20, 14 March 2014 (MDT)
No leak, it's on Tyndale's site, it's where I used to get info and post it on the wiki before anyone else but I don't have that much time anymore. I've color corrected and uploaded the high res versions of both CCWC and album 58 Reddo (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2014 (MDT)

How do you add new pages?

I'm not sure how to make a new page. Example: creating a page for Connie Kendall that wasn't previously there. Thanks ahead of time for whatever answer I will get. JasonWhittaker (talk) 11:34, 23 March 2014 (MDT)

Why do you need to make a new page for Connie? You should only create pages if there is a new episode, character, or album, etc, and if there isn't already an existing page about it. To create a page, you can type the name of the new (and proven existent) thing in the search bar, and if it doesn't show results, you can click the red link, then select from the top of the edit box the type of page it will be. Or you can link to it from another page and click the red link there, too. Again, it has to be a page not already created, has to be proven existent, and has to be spelled correct and have the proper grammar. Good luck learning. BTW, check the help pages. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~


About the Cosmic Caper? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Aio episode link

Does the episode listen online or download thing on the main page just contain a link to the episode that is the “today's free episode thing on ,or is it its own separate thing like you guys just recorded all of the AIO episodes and then put them on there at the same time as the guys on Gaberk (talk) 15:47 31, March 2014 (MST)

everythings from the official site, we don't host anything on our own Reddo (talk) 17:49, 31 March 2014 (MDT)
Thanks, just wanted to know! Gaberk (talk) 20:05, 2 April 2014 (MST)

Bassett quotes

There are several quotes on the Basset Quotes page are unusually small. Gaberk (talk) 17:18, 3 April 2014 (MST)

Anonymous Users

Over the past few days, we've had random anonymous users coming in and screwing up talk pages (or it could just be one person on multiple IP addresses, I don't know). It's getting onerous, tedious, and irritating—it's not like SWA or Reddo can be on here constantly protecting pages and blocking individual users. I think the most effective course of action would be to block anonymous editing, if there's a way to do that—dealing with just one computer hasn't been enough, and we can't protect every single page on the wiki—especially since some of those pages need legitimate editing work done. TigerShadow (talk) 20:39, 4 April 2014 (MDT)

Yeah, Reddo might have to block anonymous for a little while or make it so anonymous users have to make is so they have to put in a code. BTW by protecting we are only limiting anonymous users to those pages and the reason I do it is because it usually has happened several times to that page. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 21:36, 4 April 2014 (MDT)

Drake the Cosmic Copper

I don't know the spellings of some of the character's names in the OAC adventure 4 episode. Help? Sing4Jesus (talk) 12:09, 6 April 2014 (MDT)

No Access

Hey, I was unable to access the wiki from 4 different place over the past week. Anyone know why? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

No clue. This is the first time I've been able to get on in the past five days. Gooey98 ~ (talk) 11:31, 17 April 2014 (MDT)
And I as well. I wondered if it might be a virus, like that Heartbleed thing, but when I tried to access it on my home computer, it said something about an upgraded php. Does the wiki even run on php? TigerShadow (talk) 15:06, 17 April 2014 (MDT)
Hey guys, Shadowpaw here. We definitely were having some issues. The biggest problem seems to be that streaming from the audio player caused excessive load on the site that kept taking it down (along with and other sites I host), and then changes to a the .htaccess file caused people to get locked out entirely (and also generated a false PHP error message... which yes, AIOWiki does run on PHP, but the version itself is correct). I was able to resolve the issues this morning and the site seems to be stable right now, but I have taken the audio player streaming features offline until we can come up with another solution. I apologize for the inconvenience! Shadowpaw (talk) 16:14, 17 April 2014 (MDT)
Not a huge to-do. I'm sure we'll manage to recover from our traumatic experiences. ;) Thanks, Shadowpaw! TigerShadow (talk) 19:43, 17 April 2014 (MDT)
Oh, Thank goodness! I thought it was just me! It was a rather slow work week, and I like reading and editing pages to keep my brains from melting from boredom. I wound up playing Sudoku instead, which is fine for the first hundred games or so, but gets rather monotonous after 3 days. Now that we're back, I have something to do... provided next week is just as slow. Which knowing my luck, it won't be.--Bibliophile (talk) 04:38, 18 April 2014 (MDT)
I had the same problem, I tried it from 3 different computers, from an iPad and an iPod, I even tried it from a kindle! Thank goodness it's back up. Gaberk 07:31, 22 April 2014 (MDT)
Shadowpaw! Glad you came on to resolve the issue. Gooey98 ~ (talk) 13:53, 22 April 2014 (MDT)


The April schedule is off, The Truth About Zachary was aired today, I assume Preacher's Kid is tomorrow. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

was this on the radio? the website/app seems right to me Reddo (talk) 23:34, 1 May 2014 (MDT)
Yeah, it was on the radio. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~
As far as I can tell it was just your station that messed up, everything else seems to follow the schedule I posted Reddo (talk) 19:08, 10 May 2014 (MDT)

Wiki Style Guide

Is there an official article style guide for this wiki? I am wondering what is the proper procedure for arranging stuff in articles. --KnightMiner (talk|contribs) 16:58, 2 May 2014 (MDT)

There is not an official guide. The pages we do have are in Category: Help. As for arranging stuff, there is really no procedure. However, if you were to create a new page, there are several tabs to click on a template which feature the basic set-up for episodes, albums, books, characters, families, cast and crew, and podcast. Basically, they include the generic templates needed. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 20:56, 2 May 2014 (MDT)
Actually, there is. Try this. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~
I thought there was but I couldn't find it. Thanks! Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 08:13, 6 May 2014 (MDT)

The Biggest Odyssey Goof

What is it? - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~

Lucy's last name. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 08:12, 6 May 2014 (MDT)
I dunno, you could make a case for the Land around Whit's End controversy. TigerShadow (talk) 08:55, 6 May 2014 (MDT)
Well, I was reading that article, and it stated it was the second biggest Odyssey goof. But it probably is the biggest one. - Sunnys <BIBLE|-- ~Talk~