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Pets

Now that we have a mentioned section in the Cast section of episodes and in the Character Infobox, would anyone be opposed to using the Infobox Character Infomation on pet pages? The type would be pet and they would have a first mentioned episode and a last mentioned episode.

P.S. If this is something we think should/could be done the type field would create a Pet Characters category unless altered. Is this okay, or should we put an if statement in the template to just use Category:Pets? Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 09:22, 18 May 2018 (MDT)

I would vote for a whole different Infobox Pet template. Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 20:04, 18 May 2018 (MDT)
I second that. 2 votes for another infobox. ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 21:56, 18 May 2018 (MDT)
Whoever decides to work on this, perhaps Template:Episode Mentioned could look like this for #7: “Promises, Promises”:
Character Mentioned By
June Kendall Connie Kendall
Bill Kendall Connie Kendall
Marcy Connie Kendall
Animal Mentioned By
Kitty Connie Kendall
Edit: doing it would mess up the "sortable" function, however. Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 07:07, 20 May 2018 (MDT)
Having a pet page would be awesome! Ikwid (talk) 13:22, 3 July 2018 (MDT)

Castles and Cauldrons

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Let me be clear: I am not against all role-playing games. I am, however, against Castles & Cauldrons and Dungeons & Dragons. The former I am against due to the demonic occult nature of it, and the latter I am against due to the inevitable addiction to it. That said, the writers of the page (Caswin, 198.190.212.150), against the edits of others (Meyouthemus, AIONerdyGuy) have written a page that seems to glorify the game while putting down the episode for being inaccurate. Focus's stance on Dungeons & Dragons has not changed ([1]), and they have said, quote:

…the game as actually constructed includes some strongly occultic elements. Some former devotees testify that their involvement with "D & D" brought them into contact with demonic activity.

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/family-q-and-a/parenting/parental-concerns-about-dungeons-and-dragons

The Castles and Cauldrons page, on the other hand, says:

…it also appears to have elements … that are extraordinarily unusual for such a game, or any game released on the open market. This might be an attempt to demonize ALL Role-Playing games to make listeners, especially young children, believe that such games are evil.

No, no. Whit's quote below contradicts this. My Logic professor plays a Christian-based "role-playing game" with his students that involves fighting radioactive lobsters, and I hear it's fun. Without the Christian worldview, delving into an addicting fantasy is dangerous.

The page goes on to say:

Unfortunately … Len showed difficulty distinguishing the game from reality and generally took its events extremely seriously, with dangerous results. This makes his claims about the game and its rules difficult to judge.

— Italics added

I disagree. I believe that Castles & Cauldrons was meant to be played the way Len portrayed it. Other parts of the article mention how Castles & Cauldrons was different from "other games" and therefore Len was probably exaggerating it. This is inconsistent with the writing and plotline of the episode.

Len's copy of Castles & Cauldrons came with the following items, which looked impressive bundled together in a bag:

"Looked impressive" according to Jimmy. Not according to Focus.

In Len's copy, these "other things" included a "Board of Talisman", which could supposedly predict the future.
Whether using the board in a ritual involving using Donna Barclay's doll to summon one of the game's characters was originally intended as a part of the game is not clear.
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Hidden are two satanic terms.

This I clearly understood to be voodoo and a Ouija board. This is absolutely satanic.

…it had an unusual wrinkle in the way players were apparently assigned characters rather than being allowed to design their own (see below).

As a live-action game, rather than a "pen & paper" setup…
…many role-playing games run fights according to clearly-defined rules and statistics…

All of these are references to Dungeons & Dragons, which is interestingly never directly mentioned in the article.

The last three sections of the article go into detail about the game's characters, players, and popularity, which I see to be glorifying the game (in the small sense of the word "glorify").

It seems like this article, along with a note on the episode pages that claims the episode "has been criticized for presenting a distorted and inaccurate picture of role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons", is portraying Dungeons & Dragons as good and Focus's portrayal as bad. But are the article writers forgetting Whit's comment in part 2?

Some of the role-playing games may be silly and harmless, but a few of them are more than that. They start off innocent enough, then with time they turn into something dangerous. …They begin to consume the player's life.

No matter what, Len's behavior as described by George, his cagey actions around Whit, and Whit's comment are ALMOST EXACTLY the same as one of my friends who plays D&D. This is an emotional issue for me. There are still problems with the real-life game, spiritual side or not. If possible, I'd like to see a role-playing game episode that focuses on the addiction side of the problem. In the meantime, I ask your advice and consent to overhaul the Castles and Cauldrons page. Thanks.

Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 12:43, 20 May 2018 (MDT)

After reading your thoughts on it, I can say that I agree with you. Yes go ahead and change the page. I'd say try to keep any biased out of it. That page should just be about the C&C game used in two episodes. However we can clearly articulate FotF's position about this type of game. Just the way it starts out "This might be an attempt to demonize ALL Role-Playing games to make listeners, especially young children, believe that such games are evil." is plain wrong. If anything we should be saying that C&C was a fictional game FotF made up biased off of other rpgs. The whole point of the episode(s) were to warn about the demonic nature of these types of games. We in no way should have a page that contradicts that.
Oh you might want to take a look at the Len Barclay page too. Aiow 07:55, 21 May 2018 (MDT)

Pages needing work

I think that we should have a "Pages needing work" page. Jason13579 Jasonwhittaker-2.png (talk) (Guestbook) (Email Me) Sandbox 09:38, 21 May 2018 (MDT)

There is a category, Category:Pages needing work. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 18:19, 21 May 2018 (MDT)

30th Birthday Live Show

Huzzah! The live show has been released! …And the episode has the same name as the album. Should we make two pages: 30th Birthday Live Show and 30th Birthday Live Show (album)? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 14:21, 14 June 2018 (MDT)

Hmm, Probably. It kind of makes sense to do it that way.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 17:25, 14 June 2018 (MDT)
Anyone else? Crnel, Stop Wooton Around, Rachel Maxwell, what do you think? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 14:33, 21 June 2018 (MDT)
+1 for making two separate pages. Micro-albums like this should be differentiated from the episodes they feature. Often times the albums feature extra content in addition to the episodes (e.g., the 500th Episode (sampler album) which has a bit of extra interview material after the episode). Crnel (talk) 14:42, 21 June 2018 (MDT)

how do I...

how do I make a logo like you guys have done?
proverbs 15:11A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.
Jasoniscool Jasonwhittaker-3.png ~ talk ~
psalm 1:66For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish.
(Guestbook) sandbox
john 3:1616"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
23:57, 14 June 2018 (MDT)
There used to be scripts for quite a few episodes but they had disappeared so where did they go? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent.MontyWhittaker (talkcontribs)
With the logo, we downloaded files from the wiki and used Adobe Photoshop and Pixlr.com. I would please ask you to refrain from uploading your own logo, however, as we created it for the express purpose of sending it to Reddo after he gave me the go-ahead to draft a new one. With the scripts, I deleted all of them after Nathan Hoobler asked me to. Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 07:26, 16 June 2018 (MDT)


New album and book titles

I put some new information up. I know it need some editing so if Scientific Guy could help me with that, that would be great. Aioduck29 (talk) 20:23, 19 June 2018 (MDT)
OH MY GOODNESS! Our AIO insider has struck again! Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 14:28, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
I like when I have a good reason to use the spoiler banner :) Aioduck29 (talk) 14:30, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
If you don't mind my asking, where did you get the info about 66 and the two books? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 14:38, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
The meeting we had last Thursday. Aioduck29 (talk) 14:39, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
Do you happen to have images of the covers? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 14:41, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
I saw them I just couldn't get those yet. Probably next meeting or so. Aioduck29 (talk) 14:42, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
Can you email me? I can tell you more that way. Aioduck29 (talk) 14:46, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
After emailing, I've removed a certain person from the album description, since he wasn't directly mentioned during the meeting. Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 16:06, 20 June 2018 (MDT)

please...

please tell me something I can do! I want to do something. I said it on the town hall so everyone would hear.
proverbs 15:11A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.
Jasoniscool Jasonwhittaker-3.png ~ talk ~
psalm 1:66For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish.
(Guestbook) sandbox
john 3:1616"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
22:41, 19 June 2018 (MDT)
If you need something to do you can create wanted pages in Special:WantedPages Or you could create wanted categories. You can also work on Category:Stubs (Type it in the search bar. The link won't work at the moment) ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 10:29, 20 June 2018 (MDT)
Okay, if you really want to... Add information to these pages: Category:Character stubs. It would be a BIG help! Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 14:33, 21 June 2018 (MDT)

No more {prev} and {next}!

I've edited Template:Infobox Episode Information to finally remove the {{{prev}}} and {{{next}}} variables from episode pages! If you'd like to help, remove the parameters and make sure the preview is identical to the page. Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 07:46, 1 July 2018 (MDT)

Mr. Skint?

On the cover of Trial by Fire, there is a mysterious man in the bushes. Could it be Mr. Skint? He matches Penny's description in the Green Ring Conspiracy. You should also see File:66front.jpg Jason13579 Jasonwhittaker-2.png (talk) (Guestbook) (Email Me) Sandbox 07:11, 12 July 2018 (MDT)

I'm pretty sure it is Mr. Skint, but it hasn't been completely confirmed so we can't say that it is quite yet. I hope that answers your question.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 11:46, 12 July 2018 (MDT)
It does, thanks! Jason13579 Jasonwhittaker-2.png (talk) (Guestbook) (Email Me) Sandbox 05:52, 14 July 2018 (MDT)
You're Welcome.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 11:48, 14 July 2018 (MDT)

how do I...

How do I rank up to administrator?
proverbs 15:11A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.
Jasoniscool Jasonwhittaker-3.png ~ talk ~
psalm 1:66For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish.
(Guestbook) sandbox
john 3:1616"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
23:30, 15 July 2018 (MDT)
I hope no one minds my answering. What I've learned is that you need to show the qualities of being an administrator. You need to know a lot of html, and maybe some css. You need to have good leadership skills, need to be good at handling problems, and there has to be need of an administrator. (Such as when there are spam attacks) I asked Scientific Guy and he replied that there is currently no need of another one. Here is a list of administrators on the wiki. I hope this answers your question. If not, ask Scientific Guy. I'm sure he can come up with a better answer to your question.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 16:21, 16 July 2018 (MDT) (P.S.; Like the signature)
I did want an admin to answer, but that's ok. I do hope an admin answers too though, but thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasoniscool (talkcontribs)
…Actually, Conniekendall fan said pretty much what I was going to say. Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 17:06, 17 July 2018 (MDT)
Thanks.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 21:13, 17 July 2018 (MDT)

New Idea

I was wondering if we could make an infobox for government/computer programs. It probably might make pages like Applesauce, whit's computer programs in the secret room, the life after death program in #211 – #212: “The Mortal Coil”, and maybe a few others. Thoughts? ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 17:11, 16 July 2018 (MDT)
I think the issue with that would be that a lot of the programs do not have names given in the series and there is often confusion regarding what is a progam and what's an aspect of a program - is Mabel the AI program or just a nickname for a function (or a combination of the two)? Besides this I think there could be a lot of confusion as to what constitutes a computer program rather than an Imagination Station adventure - the life after death program was technically an Imagination Station adventure. I've toyed with the idea of a list of Imagination Station adventures - both those that have appeared on the show and those that are only referenced, connecting them with episodes in which they appeared - but have never followed through with it. I don't know how useful it would be since we do have a list of episodes the Station has appeared in as well, but I'm always for better/more thorough/more intuitive organization. Rachel Maxwell (talk) 14:07, 17 July 2018 (MDT)
I guess you're right. I didn't think about that. I would like the Imagination Station list of programs though. I think it would be very useful in differentiating ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 15:27, 17 July 2018 (MDT)
We could use the list in the Official Guide (p. 442 in the 25th Edition) and put it on Imagination Station. Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 17:07, 17 July 2018 (MDT)
I think that might be cool. 1 vote up. ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 20:56, 17 July 2018 (MDT)
My copy of the guide has been appropriated by a relative and I don't have a clear memory of exactly how the list was laid out there but that sounds fine. I would like to include mentions of adventures - like how Jason mentions the Hide and Seek program from #404: “Hide and Seek” in #407: “Malachi's Message, Part 2”, can't remember if that was included in the Guide or not. Rachel Maxwell (talk) 07:34, 18 July 2018 (MDT)

Anyone Want to Record?

Hey Wiki; I had an idea to record a discussion of the Rydell Saga just in time for the release of The Good in People. Would anyone want to talk about it with me? Send me an email via Special:EmailUser/Scientific Guy if you'd like to! Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 17:03, 19 July 2018 (MDT)

I'm down. You can email me if you like. Aioduck29 (talk) 09:54, 23 July 2018 (MDT)

FAQ

Does the wiki have an FAQ that's wiki-related? Such as, what is a wiki? how does a wiki work? Or something like that. I just think that that would make the wiki seem better. . . Maybe more semi-professional?ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 22:26, 29 July 2018 (MDT)
Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:Welcome. That what you want? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 19:17, 31 July 2018 (MDT)
Oops. I forgot about that page. That's cool. ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 21:49, 31 July 2018 (MDT)

Episode Schedule

How do we get the episodes months beforehand? ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 22:12, 1 August 2018 (MDT)
I think this question was directed at me. If this is about the schedule pages then I can answer, if something else entirely, sorry for missing your question. Its pretty easy they go mostly in order, there are the specials for holidays, and they take some out of numbered order but for the most part you just kinda know.
Just kidding :) I have a file from FotF called "Audio Drama MASTER SCHEDULE.xlsx". That is how I know what episode will be airing. (It does not have the weekend episodes though.) For that I get a different, monthly schedule that includes the weekend episodes. Aiow 20:07, 3 August 2018 (MDT)
Thanks for answering my question. ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 22:34, 3 August 2018 (MDT)

bots

What exactly do bots do? how do I make one? and why is there an expiration date on CREAM CHEESE!!!!!????
proverbs 15:11A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.
Jasoniscool Jasonwhittaker-3.png ~ talk ~
psalm 1:66For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish.
(Guestbook) sandbox
john 3:1616"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
22:49, 2 August 2018 (MDT)
Bots are used and created by administrators to fix issues and help with editing things like Templates, Infoboxes, and occasionally episode pages. They can only be created by administrators. I'm not sure how to answer your question about cream cheese, though. ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 23:27, 2 August 2018 (MDT)
It will get really gross and eventually mold. :) Rachel Maxwell (talk) 08:20, 3 August 2018 (MDT)
So it's not the kind of cheese that's aged? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 15:19, 4 August 2018 (MDT)
uhh, no.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 22:14, 4 August 2018 (MDT)
You're thinking of sour cream, it's fermented. But it'll go bad/ get moldy as well. Rachel Maxwell (talk) 10:33, 6 August 2018 (MDT)

Long Time No See!

Hey everyone! It's been a while (5+ years) since I've been here, and I'm hoping some of you older users will remember me! I was organizing some things in the basement yesterday and ran across The Official Guide book, which brought back a ton of memories about AIO and this wiki. So, I just wanted to pop back on after all these years and say hello. I had a lot of fun on this website and am very happy to see it is still up and running. Anyways, hope everyone's doing well and God bless!

~ Aria ~ (talk)

Greetings and salutations! :) AIO is one of those things you can't seem to quite run away from. Have you kept up with the series? Rachel Maxwell (talk) 13:53, 7 August 2018 (MDT)
Hi Aria! Great to see an old name popping up again! Ever think about coming back? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 12:13, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
Welcome back Aria! Good to see you! AIOrocks101 (talk) 13:28, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
I'm new here myself (1+ year) but I as well wanted to say welcome back!ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 17:54, 13 August 2018 (MDT)

Cast Organization

Moving topic from talk pages on the issue of organizing episode cast characters alphabetically versus In order of importance. AIOrocks101 (talk) 09:04, 10 August 2018 (MDT)

Actually, there is a need to rearrange the cast. Episode casts used to be put in alphabetically. Now, we put them in, in order of importance in the episode (A better way to do it). For family episodes like Clutter, we go father, mother, oldest to youngest kid. I’ve been working on fixing old episodes slowly for a long time. AIOrocks101 (talk) 07:39, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
I had not heard this. Is this written down somewhere in a set of formatting guidelines? Over time as I've added new characters to the cast, I've been organizing alphabetically. Crnel (talk) 08:11, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
I don’t think it’s written anywhere, but it is how we do it now. I can probably find somewhere to put it. This way just makes it easier to read. For example, If I’m reading about an episode where Wooton is a main character, I expect to see him at the top, not the bottom. Thanks. AIOrocks101 (talk) 08:19, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
A codified sorting standard would definitely be helpful -- not only for users who are new (or, in my case, ignorant), but also because the idea of importance to the episode becomes rather subjective when it comes to supporting or minor characters (many of which have been recently added). Maybe this would be worth opening up for broader discussion on the Town Hall? Crnel (talk) 08:49, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
Sure, we can do that. AIOrocks101 (talk) 08:52, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
I can see how it might be useful to have characters listed in order of importance, but I’m with Crnel in that it would be very subjective and we might be forever rearranging characters based on how important we view them. Here’s three options I’d propose: 1) Leave the characters in alphabetical order (easiest and least subjective way), 2) Put the characters in order of appearance (less subjective, more likely to be key characters appearing first, but would require to carefully listen to every episode again), or 3) Put the characters in order of all-time number of appearances. For example, Whit would always appear at the top of the list since he’s been in the most episodes. One-time characters would be listed alphabetically at the end of the list. What do you all think? Harlow (talk) 09:47, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
Personally, I like the idea of cast in order of appearance. That was the way I structured the 30th Birthday Live Show. Or, we can go by order of importance (see here). For episodes like the Live Show and B-TV: Revenge, since there are so many characters I think a chronological list would be best. For Clutter, since there aren't many characters (thus they can all be seen at the same time without scrolling), order-of-importance is fine.
Is there an easy way to rearrange the cast list? Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 12:12, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
"it would be very subjective and we might be forever rearranging characters based on how important we view them." - I don't organize the characters based on how important I personally view them or how much I love them. I love Jimmy, for example, but I'm not going to put Jimmy at the top of the list of an episode that he has one line in, just because I love Jimmy and that's the way its going to be. I will admit that we can't be completely objective with this, however, we can do our very best. I don't have a cheat sheet that says "In cases "XYZ", Jared goes in number 5." I just go in and figure out what works best based on the episode. The way I do it is I figure out who the top three characters are based on who the episode is about. I change those at the top, then I put the generic characters at the bottom (And/Or, the characters who may have a big role in the series, but only have a line or two in this particular episode). The order of generic characters isn't that important. Then, I figure out the middle, which is the hardest part, and does require discretion, but I make it work. If I had a list of how many lines each character has in each episode, I would use it, but I don't so I make due with what I have. 1) This makes it confusing to read, and hard to find a certain character, also I don't want, for example, "Construction Worker #3" at the top, when, as a generic character with just one line in "Episode X" he should be at the bottom. Remember, that's just a random person I made up for that example. 2) Difficult, don't want to listen to each episode to just look for that. Also, "Construction Worker #3" could still claim top spot, when he doesn't deserve it. Connie is the star of "Episode X", it says it right in the (imaginary) summary. She should be Number One. 3)This isn't good because even though Whit is the main character in the series, he shouldn't get top spot in "Episode X", because he only has two lines.
"Personally, I like the idea of cast in order of appearance. That was the way I structured the 30th Birthday Live Show. Or, we can go by order of importance (see here)." For the live show or B-TV, I like to start with our main characters, Whit, Connie, Eugene, etc.. at the top and group other characters played by the same actor under their main character, and work your way from there. This is how I like to do normal episodes as well. Its much more organized and easier to read. See B-TV: To Tell the Truth. Once you get to Kari Wahlgren and Phil Lollar at the bottom, their order isn't a big deal. I admit I might want to move Centurion under them since that's the only character Bob Smithouser plays. When I say order of importance, I don't mean "Who are the most important characters in the series?" What I mean is "Who are the main characters in this episode? Who are the supporting characters? Who just has a few lines?" Like that. I don't think there is a way to rearrange the cast list without going in and doing it manually, which I don't mind doing. You can't make a bot for it, since it will be different each episode. I'm sorry I didn't explain this better before. AIOrocks101 (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
I think we need an objective way to sort the characters. There are so many episodes with multiple story arcs where “main characters” are hard to judge. My vote is either alphabetical or chronological. Alphabetical is easier than chronological, because you don’t have to listen the episode to figure it out. If we went with chronological, we can always click the headings to sort alphabetically. Harlow (talk) 14:51, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
Since alphabetic sorting is already a function built into the Cast template, and since, as AIORocks points out, random minor characters may end up being placed high into the list when sorted alphabetically by default, a chronological sorting might be the best option. This may also inadvertently satisfy the desire to place the most prominent characters first, since the major characters in the episode tend to be heard in the first scene. Crnel (talk) 20:37, 10 August 2018 (MDT)
Order of importance is too subjective. And the father-mother-oldest to youngest kid doesn't work with families like the Washingtons where it's only mentioned once off-handed what birth order the kids are in. You shouldn't have to know the entire history of the show to add a character. I've been putting them in chronological since they can be sorted alphabetically anyway. I mean I'm sure there are times I heard a character who wasn't listed and stuck them in the bottom by accident but it wasn't intentional. I'm all for a codified cast/character list but it needs to be something completely objective. Order of appearance to me makes the most sense because if you are looking for who played the part of a character with a couple of throwaway lines that may be the only way you could find them if it's a show like a BTV with a lot of characters. If y'all really want to designate one line or one time characters within the structure then we need to come up with some sort of symbol to be next to the character's name. EDIT: Maybe we could have like two sets of symbols - one for the subjective importance we judge the character to have within the episode and one for their importance to the series. Like concentric circles - characters in the smallest, most inner circle are the most important - Whit, Connie, Eugene, etc. Middle circle are important characters but not The Main - Courtney, Tasha Forbes, Leonard Meltsner, and the outermost circle is characters of minor importance or who only have a few lines. I mean it would be a lot of work but no more than rearranging every cast/character infobox. Rachel Maxwell (talk) 08:47, 13 August 2018 (MDT)
I would be very happy to create a sample template or do some revisions to the existing one. Could we list some more example episodes that I could work with? So far, we have Clutter, the 30th Birthday Live Show, B-TV: Revenge, and B-TV: To Tell the Truth.
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Edit: Here's a start! Scientific Guy (talk/edits) 16:07, 15 August 2018 (MDT)
I’m actually going to make some guidelines tonight. Maybe I can add that. AIOrocks101 (talk) 18:49, 15 August 2018 (MDT)
Thank you everyone for your ideas and input. You wanted a page explaining the rules for the cast lists, and now we have one. Please see Help:Episode Cast. It can be found on the Manual of Style page. I know some of you will probably say these methods are too complicated. I understand, since you're not used to it. After you do it several times, and become more familiar with it, it will get easier. With these methods that you may think are "too complicated", we can create cast lists that will be easier to read for the viewer. Remember, it's always more important to use methods (for anything on the wiki) that will be easy to read, not necessarily super easy to edit. I will update B-TV: To Tell the Truth to reflect these new rules, in order to use it as an example, when I get a chance. Thanks guys. AIOrocks101 (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2018 (MDT)

2018 Season

In the 2018 Season, it says that the episodes for album 65 come out in October and November. But I'm listening to the first four episodes in the club now and the next one comes out on the 16th. Could someone please fix this?ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 14:55, 14 August 2018 (MDT)
Those dates are when it airs on the radio. AIOrocks101 (talk) 16:08, 14 August 2018 (MDT)
Oops. My bad.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 00:46, 15 August 2018 (MDT)