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100,000 Edits · Episodes Project

unofficial podcast interviews Marshal Younger

To those of you who heard the Unofficial Podcast's latest interview with Marshal Younger, you will remember that He mentioned the Kidsboro Kids interacting with the Odyssey people. In my opinion that's not very good. I had initially hoped that the kidsboro and Odyssey people would remain in their seperate corners and only interact when absolutely necessary, but it looks like it isn't going to be that way. This means that they're probably getting rid of some of the Odyssey characters, or they'll leave them in and get complaints by the dozen because it will be too hard to keep track of the characters. I know that a lot of people loved kidsboro, but I didn't think it was very good myself, and personally, it makes me sick when I think about the Kidsboro kids streaming into Odyssey. That means we'll hear less of the beloved Washingtons, Eugene and Katrina's family life, and good ol' Bart Rathbone (I use the term loosely) it sure would be nice if we could put a stop to this. I know people may be thinking that there aren't too many Kidsboro kids, but they all have to have parents, and perhaps siblings who have gone unmentioned so far. I would be fine with Kidsboro continuing, IF it was a seperate radio show, and they didn't have to be infiltrating Odyssey. I'll get off the soapbox now. Dr. Bluegaard 00:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. Odyssey in my mind has always been bigger than what we hear for twenty minutes once a week-it's a whole town of people with families and friends we don't hear much about. Sometimes you have to let something go in order to get something even better. The AIO writers have done a brilliant job so far-and we just have to swallow and believe that they still know what they're doing now. I don't necessarily see the Washingtons moving on-though it's a possibility-but I don't think that the advent of Kidsboro kids is what's going to determine the fazing (sp?) out of old characters. If the characters are strong enough, and people like them enough, they'll stay. If not, then we're not losing much. Don't get me wrong-I love all the 'old' characters-the McKays in particular, and I would be very sad to see them go. But, once again...the AIO writers have done alright in the past, and if they'd never brought in new characters...we wouldn't have even met the Washingtons to begin with, now would we? I'm not arguing with you, just trying to help you see a bit more of it. Rachel Maxwell 03:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
well after the last hiatus they got rid of almost everyone of the old kids and introduced all new ones, so i could see them doing that again, also I heard that all of the kidsboro "kids" were actually voiced by adults, so maybe they'll stick around for a while longer this time since their voices have already changed and that's when focus usually decides to stop using a character. Reddo 19:15, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Did it bother anybody that the kids were played by adults? I didn't mind for Kidsboro, but I really wouldn't like it for a fixed thing. Rachel Maxwell 04:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I have to say it didn't bother me, I didn't even know that they we're being played by adults till after I heard the interview so I probably wouldn't notice if they used adults to play kids in future episodes Reddo 07:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Same here. It's just alot of times when kids play adults it is so obvious, and I guess I'm afraid if they used them all the time it would get obvious, but I guess that's silly. Rachel Maxwell 14:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

scripture references

I've created a new template for doing the scripture references on episode pages, to use it you put this

{{Scripture
|booknum=
|bookname=
|chapt=
|verse=
}}

when you want to use make a scripture reference, this should cut down on some of the confusion generated by new users when their creating episode pages, to use is you just fill in the blanks to look something like this

{{Scripture
|booknum=2
|bookname=Peter
|chapt=2
|verse=3
}}

if the there is just one of the book, like Mark for example, just leave the booknum blank and the template will adjust. with this new format we will be able to create lists of episodes that all have the same references. as always questions and comments are welcome. Reddo 18:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I really like it. Did u put it in the episode template? Rachel Maxwell 20:38, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes it's already in there, I'm still working on the best way to make it work for episodes with multiple verses though, once I'm done that I'll try to go through and change it so all episodes use this method. Reddo 20:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I created the templates for multiple verses, here is an example of how to use it
{{2Scripture
|booknum=
|bookname=John
|chapt=17
|verse=1
|booknum2=
|bookname2=Mark
|chapt2=5
|verse2=13}}
If you want to use 3 verses, change it to 3scripture then add another set of booknum, bookname, ect all ending with 3. Reddo 16:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Edit:I just made one for 4 verses, also I'm going to make a similar version for theme's. Reddo 19:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Birthday Bash Live Event

Wow, the Birthday bash is coming up! I wish I could go, but I'm guessing that it will be talked about and aired on Youtube or something. Sounds like I'll be missing a really great experience! Dr. Bluegaard 22:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I wish I could go to, I'm not sure if it will be put on youtube, if it is it would have to broken up into 6 sections (an hour long performance) it will be available on the radio and on a cd collection of some sort at a later date though. Reddo 19:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Same here. About it being available on radio: but not the bloopers! Which is what I'd get the biggest kick out of. I kinda doubt it'll be on youtube cause of copyright violations, but that's not stopped anybody yet, so who knows! Rachel Maxwell 23:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Games

U think we ought a put the games on here? You know, answer that, and the computer games?

of course we should, i think there already is a page for answer that but we should make pages about the other games, however I've never played any of them myself so I wouldn't be the best person to do the pages.Reddo 19:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah me neither, but I figure I can get the info off other websites. Can u fix a category? Rachel Maxwell 23:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
You mean like this? Reddo 18:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah! When u get a chance, will u make another subcategory for computer games plz? Rachel Maxwell 02:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Misc Collections

Do you think there should be a category for the AIO albums that have different episodes such as Bible Eyewitness?Peachey Keen 22:18, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, we're doing that (slowly but surely). We're giving them the title Special # whatever, or Classics # whatever, from the aiohq. Check out the albums category page and I think you'll see what I mean. Rachel Maxwell 03:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

What about the new versions of those albums? Peachey Keen 20:58, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I guess same thing! Any ideas? Rachel Maxwell 21:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

themes

I made the template for themes all you have to do is type {{Theme|Friendship}} add it will add all the proper categories and links, if there is more than one them just insert the number of themes before the word theme and keep adding the themes separated by | signs for example {{3Theme|Friendship|Forgiveness|Death}}, If you have any questions feel free to ask me on my talk page Reddo 18:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks awesomely cool! I've been wanting to see all the themes done like this for ages! Rachel Maxwell 19:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Book

What category should this book go under? Clicky Rachel Maxwell 05:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd say maybe something like Category:Other Books I'd say kids books but there's not much of a point in making a category for only one book, with something like other it's a bit more open of what we can all put in it. Reddo 06:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
So you think Category:Other Books? Rachel Maxwell 14:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

That should do it.Peachey Keen 20:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Spelling Kelie's Name

On the official site,it shows Kellie's name Kelly.Everything with Kellie should be respelled,right?Peachey Keen 17:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The important thing is that however we do it, it should be the same across the entire site. I think that we should try and go with the official site's spelling for name though. Reddo 17:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sidebar version 5

I've been thinking and I really don't like how the episode and albums expand in the sidebar, I think the expand out to be too long for the normal person's computer screen resolution. for this reason I propose that we replace both the current episode and albums section with just one episode section containing

  • episodes
    • by airdate
    • by name
    • by album
    • by season
    • by character
    • by actor
    • by writer
    • by director
    • by producer
    • by sound designer
    • by music composer
    • by theme
    • by verse
    • by genre

Reddo 18:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I like this idea. it would allow easier access episodes sorted by whatever you want-not just year and album. i think we should implement it Spiderman 18:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Rachel Maxwell 23:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay I made the change, I left out the actor and genre ones for now, I'll add them later when they actually exist. Reddo
I've been thinking about adding another section to the sidebar for miscellaneous type things something like this but it seems to short

miscellaneous

there are 2 more statistical type pages that I'd like to add to this but they require the new version of Mediawiki to work correctly (it should be released sometime next week) Reddo 04:02, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

It's alright, but Games just doesn't seem to fit. Although miscellaneous does mean miscellaneous...but all the others are pages. Hey you might could put 'featured articles' on it too. Though I don't think we have very many of those... Rachel Maxwell 04:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Main Page Redesign

I have put together a new design for the home page. It's up on Talk:Main Page. I think it still needs a little work but let me know what you think Spiderman 16:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I like the new design, however I'm not sure if we need that links for episodes, albums, season ect. on the main header as all those links are in sidebar, Maybe we could move the about, help, editing ect. links up there instead. I think the image of tom needs a bit of touching up, I'll start on that right away. Reddo 17:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I finished cleaning up of the picture of tom and replaced it. Also I asked my sister and she thinks that the new version looks a lot better to. Reddo 17:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I changed the header on the page. I didn't really like the links underneath the header, but I dont really think they should be in the header if we take out the episode and other links so i'll try to find a better spot for them Spiderman 19:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I tweaked the header a little bit it can be found here Reddo 19:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I like it, but what about the games? I mean, they're not on the page anymore now, and will be hard to find. I guess you could put them on the sidebar... The only other thing besides that that I can think of is that the Latest News might look cooler if it had a color behind it, like Welcome does. Besides that, I like! Rachel Maxwell 19:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back Spiderman...you've been greatly missed. I'm glad you've met Mark and the other admins and that the site is coming along so greatly. Now, onto the business at hand. I really only have 3 words to said about the new design. "I am impressed". Keep up the awesome work everyone, and thank you all for your help. I apologise for my absence of late, but there has been a lot going on in my life these last 4 months. Feel free to email me or contact me on Facebook if you want to chat. Otherwise, see you all soon. blipadouzi 21:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all of the positive feedback. I added some color behind latest news and added a new navigation bar under the header sorta like how mark did. I still don't really like the navigation how it is though. Let me know if you have any ideas. Spiderman 23:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I like what you did with the navigation better than what I did, I think that having the 2 long skinny boxes at the top looks a little weird though. I tried merging them together and came up with this, I think it looks a little better but still could be improved on. Reddo 03:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Deafening applause. I am now virtually satisfied-all of my beloved categories are represented, and everything is grouped intelligently. (Not that I would expect less.) Again, my only thing is that it looks a bit strange for every other 'box' to have a background color, and Latest News to be...white. However, as complaints go, that's nitpicky. Rachel Maxwell 04:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
EDIT-I like!
Spiderman's version has color for the latest news section, I didn't bother adding it as I was only playing with the navigational section. Reddo 05:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
In that case, thank you Spiderman! Rachel Maxwell 05:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I changed the navigation on Talk:Main Page to be like marks but I added a separation bar from the welcome text. And I also changed some of the background colors. Unless someone thinks something else needs to change it is about done! Spiderman 13:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
It looks awesome! Rachel Maxwell 14:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

(re-indent)If nobody has an objection to it I'll change it to be the new mainpage design sometime this weekend - Mark 66.128.84.61 01:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I Love it!!!Peachey Keen 22:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion-Block

I deleted a page before I blocked the IP address-and now have no idea how to. Help please? Rachel Maxwell 18:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it Spiderman 19:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

FF

What would be cool (though I'm sure impossible on a wiki) would be a central place for people to submit fanfiction. Why has no one created a website for that yet? Rachel Maxwell 05:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Beats me. Peachey Keen 19:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
from what I can tell there are a couple of things that we could do
  1. create a new namespace on this wiki for fan fiction - I don't really like this idea though since people creating the fan fiction stories would probably put it in the wrong place and it would end up creating a lot of work for the admins.
  2. get shadowpaw to set up a new wiki - this would require registering a new url which costs money so I don't really like this idea either
  3. get a wiki for it set up on wikia - It's free however it's supported by adds
  4. use the existing place for fanfiction on the TOO - it's not really set up for fanfiction though
  5. get somebody whose good with pretty much all of the web and database programming languages (PHP, MySQL, JAVA, HTML ect.) to create something for it
Reddo 18:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm for 5, as all of the others seem to have muuultiple problems. However, I'm no good with really any sort of computer language myself, so I suppose I shall have to wait patiently for someone who does, and has the time. O well. Rachel Maxwell 04:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Places in Odyssey

Shouldn't we make a list of places in Odyssey like Whit's End,the Electric Palace etc. like the albums,charactersetc.?Peachey Keen 22:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, there is one somwhere (I think at Odyssey.) We were tossing ideas around a while back for categories of the places; businesses, emporiums, government buildings, recreational facilities, etc, but couldn't seem to really hit on anything brilliant. The ideas are in the Town Hall archive not too far back. Check them out, then please please post fresh ideas! Rachel Maxwell 23:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Genres etc.

What all u think about doing a template for genres like there is for Scriptures and Themes? Of course then we have to decide on the genres...I was thinking something like Bible stories, history stories, Imagination Station adventures, BTVs, Bernard stories, Kyds radio shows, holidays, Westerns, Mysteries, and if they're part of a saga, then that. ?? Rachel Maxwell 12:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

That would be great! Peachey Keen 13:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, I'll make a template when I get home from work tonight Reddo 18:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Here is a list of some of the genre's I came up with
  • Kid's Radio
  • Imagination Station
  • Room of Consequence
  • BTV
  • Bible stories
  • Historical stories
  • Novacom Arc
  • Blackgaard Arc
  • Bernard Stories
  • Mystery
  • Holiday
Reddo 17:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I like it! They seem to cover about everything-except Westerns, which I'm sure we can live without...;)-but should Novacom and Blackgaard be called arcs or sagas? Rachel Maxwell 04:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Good list of genres but i think we should call them Novacom Saga and Blackgaard Saga. I think thats what they are officially called but I may be wrong... Spiderman 20:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure you're right, cause at the end of Exit, Chris says 'we hope you've enjoyed all the episodes in the Novacom saga'. I think arcs are smaller things, like Mandy's parents or whatever. Rachel Maxwell 21:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Spelling Genny Long's Name

On The Official Adventures in Odyssey Podcast archive shows Genny Long's name as Genni.Peachey Keen 16:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I've noticed the same thing-it seems to be spelt differently everywhere. I'll leave this one to Redekop. Or Spiderman. Or Blip. Or anybody. Rachel Maxwell 18:15, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Since both the official and unofficial podcasts spell her name Genni and they actually talked to her I think that we should change it to Genni
Sounds good to me. Rachel Maxwell 22:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Darcie explained a bit about it here Reddo 05:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

character divisions

the new version of mediawiki has been released so we should decide on some sort of divisions of how to sort characters by number of appearances, here's what I was thinking

1 One time Characters
2-4 Recurring Characters
5-24 Minor Characters
25+ major Characters

Reddo 08:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. What about current and past characters? Current being anything in, say, the past fifty episodes? Rachel Maxwell 13:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
never thought of it but Yeah we could do that too, however I think that 50 episodes is a bit much that's over 2 full year's worth of episodes, My personal opinion is that should be anybody that has appeared within the last season. Reddo 17:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
*blushes at not really thinking about how many 50 is* I think you're right. so current is any that have appeared in the last season? Hey-when will the 'Shows with Whatever Actor' start working on the character page? Rachel Maxwell 18:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
it will start working sometime after I have a lot of free time, hopefully within the next few weeks, i still have to decide about something though, on the character page in the infobox the number of episodes will link to the category with all episodes with that character. in that category there will be sub-categories by to sort the episodes by actor. what I'm still trying to decide is on the character page where it lists current and past actors should we have those actors link to their actor page or should they link to the list of episodes that they voiced that character for. Anyways I need to wait for the server upgrade for it to work properly, it should be done sometime next week after corey gets back from the birthday bash. Reddo 18:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
EDIT: I came up with a new method of how to show character appearances by actor, It gives more information about it and If you ask me it looks a lot better that just having it listed on category pages like I was planning, The new way should be up and working shortly after the server is upgraded which should be any day now. Reddo 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Lucky duck Corey. :P. I hope he takes pictures. About the actor linking thing, I think it should link to the page for the actor, if you can sort the episodes by which actor it is anyways. But I shall defer to your judgment. Rachel Maxwell 18:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Whitsend

Have u seen whitsend? It looks awesome! But they sooo stole our idea. We just changed our look too! (Kidding...) Rachel Maxwell 13:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC) EDIT-of course, the downside is that now none of our Whitsend Library links work. Rachel Maxwell 13:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC) EDIT-Look, Look, the Soda Fountain has been updated too!

yeah I saw it last night, and I thought some parts of it looked a little familiar, but hey I stole the idea from another site. I like the graphical update however it appears the database for it isn't complete yet, (neither is ours so I shouldn't really complain) I tried searching for all episodes that aired this year and it didn't come up with anything. Reddo 18:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
As much as I like their new layout...redoing all of our links is going to be a nightmare. O well, we'll survive. Le's hope this means they'll update it, like, often! And hey-the new episodes are up, but they're under the album, not the search, and the complete plot synopsis isn't up yet, but it wasn't under the old site either. Rachel Maxwell 18:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
yeah re-linking to their pages will take quite a while also it appears that all of the teasers for the episodes have been taken down, so all of those links aren't worth anything either.Reddo 18:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I hadn't bee putting teasers for the past few album ep pages anyways cause there wasn't a link to them on Whitsend. On the bright side, we needed to redo the old ep pages anyways to put in the new infobox and the Rating thing. I relinked all the album pages, so they're right. Unless I got off. I thought I saw teaser buttons? Hold on...Yes teasers are up, but apparently they have different urls. Rachel Maxwell 19:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
They say teaser but it's a link to listen to the episode, however most of the episodes arn't up yet so they just lead to today's episode Reddo 19:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh. O well. Rachel Maxwell 21:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

episode pages

I did a bit of playing around with an episode pages, things like adding a link to listen to the episode and removing the table of contents and the links to edit by section. you can see a preview of it here let me know what you think. Reddo 22:42, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit: I also hide the arrow that usually appears next to an external link, and when you hover the cursor over the link to listen the hover box says On Whits End, Nathan said that they'd appreciate if we mentioned that the episode are on their server and not ours. Reddo 00:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I like it, but what's gonna happen when it's not up on the server anymore? Rachel Maxwell 01:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC) Wait...the Official AIO people have noticed the Wiki? *faints*
when it's no longer on the server the link will be removed, if it's after a certain number of days of airing then I can create a template to automatically take the link away, if it's not after a certain number of days a user will have to edit the value of listen in the infobox and change the value from 2 to 1. Reddo 05:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I removed the table of contents and the section edit links on all the episode pages, I also added a new link under recently aired episodes on the side that directs you to a category with all episodes available to listen to. Reddo 05:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Another question about age

Isn't Monty older than Jenny? I saw on the page for Jenny that Monty is younger than her. Is that correct? Dr. Bluegaard 15:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Monty's older. I'm sure I remember him calling her 'my little sister'. Rachel Maxwell 16:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I'll change that. Dr. Bluegaard 21:47, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Soda Fountain Updated

I just checked out The Soda Fountain.All the new released album art has been posted.Peachey Keen 02:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

this is just my opinion but I think that we should have a contest to make a new logo, something that is ours and not just the generic AIO logo that we have now. if you have any ideas fee free to submit them Reddo 19:54, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that's a wonderful idea! Rachel Maxwell 22:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Details can be found here Reddo 17:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
How're we gonna decide whose to use? Rachel Maxwell 21:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Haven't decided exactly how it will be done but it will be something democratic. Reddo 05:59, 28 August 2008 (UTC)