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The Town Hall is a place where users can meet and discuss larger changes to the wiki, such as policy proposals and new ways of displaying and organizing information. It serves as a way for users to be involved without having to find a relevant discussion page. Please be constructive and courteous when corresponding with fellow editors and add new discussion topics at the bottom of the page.

Categories on Unaired Episodes

On the Album 66 episode pages, even with the spoilers hidden, the categories can be seen, which do contain spoilers for The Long End. Should we have those categories removed, should HIDDENCAT be added to them, or should they stay as they are? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 11:46, 18 January 2019 (MST)

If you're asking my opinion, I think we should hide them.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 18:17, 20 January 2019 (MST)

question about main page

Hello everyone. I've been away from the wiki for a few years, but I noticed that listen online for today's episode link is broken. Is this a known problem? ElementusGreen (talk) 20:11, 27 January 2019 (MST)

I don't think it's a known problem, and it's working today, but that's still odd. Cartoon Nostalgia 04:03, 28 January 2019 (MST)
the link changed to - we might need to fix the scripting. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 17:00, 28 January 2019 (MST)
If it's not working, the slug can be changed here: {{Listen code}} Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:38, 28 January 2019 (MST)
Thanks, all! I will possibly be popping in around here from time to time ElementusGreen (talk) 08:16, 31 January 2019 (MST)

Today's episode is broken

Today's episode is broken. It's showing the code instead of the album image. Could someone please fix this?ConnieKendall fan  talk

Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.

 (Guestbook) 14:26, 7 February 2019 (MST)

In the future, put | album_num = LE in the infobox, if the episode is a Lost Episode. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:46, 8 February 2019 (MST)
It was broken on the main page but okay.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 21:47, 8 February 2019 (MST)

DPL Manual

The DPL Manual has been added to AIOWiki! The index page is Help:DPL. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 09:43, 12 February 2019 (MST)

Yay!ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 13:46, 12 February 2019 (MST)


I updated the server and I know I broke some things if you can leave a list here of what needs fixing I'll do my best to fix is as soon as possible Reddo (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2019 (MST)

Need fixing
  1. lua extension
  2. Check.svg Done rating bar extension
  3. Check.svg Done mobile front end extension
  4. Check.svg Done Show preview
  5. DPL columns
  6. Check.svg Done DPL category=_none_
  7. Special:PollResults
  8. Check.svg Done "Live updates" on Special:RecentChanges
  9. reCaptcha (a few reports of it not working)
  10. Check.svg Done Interface Editors
  11. Check.svg Done {{Article Pie Chart}}
  12. Check.svg Done Creating category Category:Podcasts with Jennifer England
  13. Check.svg Done Loops extension
  14. Check.svg Done Search bar predictions
  15. Check.svg Done Bible Verse, Albums, and Wraparounds "snap" instead of "glide" open (see Whit's Flop)
  16. Check.svg Done Links in box below edit area (#REDIRECT[[]], [[Category:]], etc.)
  17. Check.svg Done Delete AIOWiki:Featured_articles (it's broken: [1])
  18. Check.svg Done redirect to The AIOWiki Podcast
  19. Check.svg Done Mabel
  20. MP3 tag
  21. Check.svg Done Tabber extension
  22. {{#input}} and SimpleForms
Show Preview on the Edit Page Harlow (talk) 22:21, 19 February 2019 (MST)
Nice to see you're semi-active again, Reddo.
Today's episode bar is often broken.
The 'Show preview' button doesn't work. if I push it, it turns into this 'internal error' page.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 23:16, 19 February 2019 (MST)
Search bar won't show predictions. Also, columns in DPL doesn't seem to cooperate (User:Scientific Guy#Subpages). Thanks so much, Reddo!! Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:33, 20 February 2019 (MST)
Added a few things above Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:17, 21 February 2019 (MST)
Search predictions work for me but are a little slower than they used to be, I'll move it to the bottom of the list and come back to it Reddo (talk) 07:20, 25 February 2019 (MST)
Collapsing animations work again but I kind of had to hack it together since the animations were removed from mediawiki due to being disliked. I like them I don't think I broke anything by adding them back in but let me know if it's acting weird for you Reddo (talk) 07:48, 25 February 2019 (MST)
Jennifer England category works now; so does DPL category=_none_ Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 14:46, 25 February 2019 (MST)
Not sure how that happened for either of them, can't say I did anything on those two Reddo (talk) 18:15, 25 February 2019 (MST)
Sorry, back now was busy having a daughter. I've re-written the mp3 extension to better conform with changes to how mediawiki extensions should be written, I've checked episode pages and it still works there if you see any other problems with it let me know here, I'll continue working on the list Reddo (talk) 09:42, 2 April 2019 (MDT)
Search should be fully functional again Reddo (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2019 (MDT)
It might be just an issue with my browser, but today when I tried to edit a couple pages occasionally it wouldn't let me. It came up with this "internal error" page. I reloaded the pages a couple times and eventually they worked, but then it did it again with a different page. I also had a problem with trying to edit the Town Hall. Again, I'm not sure whether or not this is just an error with my browser, but I thought I'd let you know.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 12:34, 2 April 2019 (MDT)
if it was today only it was probably just me, if I'm editing a file and you try to load a page it'll come up with an error sorry about that Reddo (talk) 13:03, 2 April 2019 (MDT)
dpl columns is currently broken in the extension itself, developers are aware of it but it's fairly involved to fix it, most places you should be able to fix it with css like I did on the new intersecction page, it's fairly well supported on up to date browsers Reddo (talk) 23:36, 2 April 2019 (MDT)
Thank you. It's working now.ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 11:07, 4 April 2019 (MDT)
The Tabber Extension is broken. It looks like there's a new version available; maybe that will fix the problem? — Eugene [talk] 01:48, 9 April 2019 (MDT)
The input fields ({{#input}}) on the Main Page to show the subscribe URLs aren't being rendered. — Eugene [talk] 02:28, 9 April 2019 (MDT)
looks like the new version of tabber is also broken, i'll check that out probably wednesday evening, for the input extension it was breaking other features of mediawiki so I turned it off, i might be able to fix it but I was thinking of doing it all with js/css something like
//html code
<div href='' class='button'>subscribe to fun</div>

//js code
        var link = $(this).attr('href');
        window.location = link;

//make buttons pretty
very similar to what I did on the new intersection page, I'm not sure if that extension was being used elsewhere but it should be pretty easy to swap it all over Reddo (talk) 07:04, 9 April 2019 (MDT)
That makes sense. I want to clean up the podcast subscription options in the future anyway, but for now I've put the URLs into divs and made them look like the input boxes did. One click selects the full URL and users can then copy it. So no worries on the input extension. :) — Eugene [talk] 20:38, 9 April 2019 (MDT)
tabber should be fixed Reddo (talk) 23:01, 9 April 2019 (MDT)
X mark.svg Not Done 2017 Season still won't switch tabs. Is that just me? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 06:58, 10 April 2019 (MDT)
don't use " in the tab title and it works, I'm not sure what other requirements there are on the names Reddo (talk) 07:24, 10 April 2019 (MDT)
Wow! Everything looks awesome now. Almost just like wikipedia. It's nice. ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 14:29, 12 April 2019 (MDT)

Possible New Episode Category

I wonder if there could be a category for episode titles which reference a character's name. There are a number of these episodes, such as Whit's Flop, Connie Comes to Town, Sir Buddy's Snowy Day, Unbecoming Jay, Groundhog Jay, etc. I'm thinking it would only include clear references, and not titles like Grandma's Visit or The Holy Hoopster. Did someone want to create this category? DavidHilder (talk) 13:45, 24 February 2019 (MST)

Hey again, David! That's a good idea, but I'm not sure it needs to be a category. I'll make a DPL list in AIOWiki:Sandbox, which we can put on a page like List of episodes with character titles. Would that suffice? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 13:56, 24 February 2019 (MST)
Yeah, that sounds perfect. Thanks, Lee! DavidHilder (talk) 14:24, 24 February 2019 (MST)
Name standardized to episodes with character titles Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 14:29, 24 February 2019 (MST)
Nice work! I'm surprised how many there are. Isaac and Bernard sure are popular for episode titles. DavidHilder (talk) 14:36, 24 February 2019 (MST)

Alice (b) Page Move

Alice (b) should be moved to Elise (a), but if so, would Elise have to be moved to Elise (a)? I forget what was decided when we were discussing page name standards before. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 11:12, 23 March 2019 (MDT)

If you mean that Alice (b) should be moved to Elise (b), then yes I think Elise should be moved to Elise (a) to be consistent. Harlow (talk) 22:46, 23 March 2019 (MDT)
In that case, Alice should be moved to Alice (a), and the current Alice (a) page should be moved to Alice (b). Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 07:08, 24 March 2019 (MDT)
Ah, yes this is true! I hadn’t noticed that yet, but based on precedent, if there are two characters of the same name, they all have letters after them. Harlow (talk) 09:50, 24 March 2019 (MDT)


Hey, everyone! I've decided to get involved with the wiki again. I miss helping out! :)

Anyway, just wanted to let everyone know that I'm going through the gadgets right now (accessible via Preferences → Gadgets) and updating them. Turns out the Scrolling Sidebar gadget was breaking the wiki for me such that I couldn't see a single page! I've now completely rewritten the gadget and it's quite slick if I do say so myself. You should try it! But BEWARE; the Top Sidebar gadget is also broken and will cause the same error I incurred.

Do you want to see the Top Sidebar gadget rewritten and functioning once again? (I'm not even sure what it used to look like exactly.) I'm leaning towards just scrapping it. I'm also gonna scrap the old Quote gadget which (I think) is no longer relevant now that random quotes are fully integrated into the Main Page. Any thoughts or suggestions for the gadgets? — Eugene [talk] 22:36, 8 April 2019 (MDT)

So glad to see you back active on the wiki! I tried out the rewritten sidebar gadget, nice but I probably wont use it. I see no issues with removing both the Top Sidebar gadget and the Quote gadget. Aiow 21:48, 9 April 2019 (MDT)

New Options for Spoilers

Spoilers have been discussed back-and-forth for a long time on this site, and the consensus currently is that 1) {{spoiler}} must be used on articles for not-yet-aired episodes, seasons, and albums, and optionally on not-yet-released books; 2) {{spoiler2}} can be placed inconspicuously around pertinent info on pages without {{spoiler}}; and 3) {{Episode Chart}} does not show BlackSlices for not-yet-released episodes, and character pages display Unaired episode in place of (e.g.) #869: B-TV: Idolatry. Is this sufficient for what Focus has asked we keep hidden on pages?

It was once asked if there could be a global toggle for spoilers: have the hidden sections automatically shown (and perhaps remove {{warning}} from view). Could this be a gadget that adds a switch (like the "Autoplay" toggle on to the top menu ("Username" "Talk" "Preferences" etc.)? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 10:23, 10 April 2019 (MDT)

that was good enough last time I talked to Nathan Hoobler but that was a few years ago, things could have changed since then. A gadget for that is an interesting idea, it should be possible Reddo (talk) 11:56, 10 April 2019 (MDT)
Alright, I tried something, but when I'm cycling through episodes chronologically, every once in a while the page will be hidden. Why is that? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 20:08, 10 April 2019 (MDT)
what page got hidden? Reddo (talk) 20:16, 10 April 2019 (MDT)
Actually, when I went back to check, Episodes sorted chronologically had its bottom section hidden. I refreshed the page after a few seconds and then it was there. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:45, 11 April 2019 (MDT)

album 67

do we have a source for the titles in episode 67? I got a tip from Sarak Keimig that the Untitled Sarah Keimig Episode is an album episode that's releasing on CD this year, she knows the real title of the episode and it's not currently listed as being in Album 67. Reddo (talk) 10:57, 13 April 2019 (MDT)

Everything currently listed about the Album 67 episodes is fake, except for the title "Dreams by Constance, Parts 1 and 2," the summary for that episode, and the title "A Sacrificial Escape." I made it all up for April Fool's Day. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:35, 15 April 2019 (MDT)
So you mean the episode where Jules wants to go to California is fake? (I think it was in the album)If it is I was looking forward to that. . . 😒 ConnieKendall fan  talk
Proverbs 13:2020He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
 (Guestbook) 21:25, 15 April 2019 (MDT)

Sarah Keimig Episode

Straight from Nathan himself: we have the episode lineup for Album 67, and the Sarah Keimig episode is not in it. I think it's gotta be in the Club- and if she's sure it's coming out on CD, then we can expect a sampler disc like was done with The Drop Box. But that's speculation. FlYiNg FiSh-YoShI SaN (talk) 18:31, 18 April 2019 (MDT)

One of those episodes we have listed as being in 67 is her episode, she's listened to the final copy of it already and says that her story line isn't the main focus of the episode, it's also not nightmares or escape as that's what started this whole conversation Reddo (talk) 19:02, 18 April 2019 (MDT)
According to AIO Audio News, the Sarah Keimig episode is the first one, Rightly Dividing. —Harlow (talk) 23:15, 18 April 2019 (MDT)
That's correct Reddo (talk) 23:38, 18 April 2019 (MDT)
Hey, I'm starting to be reliable again! Can we list Luella as the "Lou" in that episode? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 08:24, 19 April 2019 (MDT)

rating bar

I wrote a small update to the rating bar extension for the category average function, to handle what I believe to be a bug in mediawiki, this means Series albums now works if you see anything wrong with it let me know and i'll do my best to fix it Reddo (talk) 19:51, 19 April 2019 (MDT)

Animal Pages

Should there be a specific page for animals? TheAIOlover (talk) 18:17, 16 May 2019 (MDT)

Elise (b) Last Name

Should Elise (b) be changed to Elise Reed? Because in Between Camp and a Hard Place, Part 2 they announced her full name as Elise Reed. Or, at least that's what I understood. MayaKendall (talk) 11:17, 30 May 2019 (MDT)

If that's her real name, then I think we should change it. TheAIOlover (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2019 (MDT)
I believe it is. MayaKendall (talk) 14:43, 30 May 2019 (MDT)
Feel free to move and change the pages. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:21, 30 May 2019 (MDT)
Thanks! And... Moved! MayaKendall (talk) 12:52, 3 June 2019 (MDT)

5G WiFi

There is a problem. This wiki won't work on computers connected to 5G WiFi connections. I am using 2G right now, but the problem is probably still there. Jason13579 Jasonwhittaker-2.png (talk) (Guestbook) (Email Me) Sandbox

job 3:22He said:

08:45, 1 June 2019 (MDT)

Probably because we don't have SSL on this site (HTTPS://) OdysseyFan (talk) 18:42, 11 October 2019 (MDT)

Preview Intros

Should there be a new section in the article pages for preview intros (for the episodes that have them)? I love those intros, so I've just been adding some of them to the article pages myself. But I've been informed there's not a system for these yet, and thus they look a little out of place. Either way, Scientific Guy recommended I suggest the idea here, so I'm suggesting it! Eruanna1875 (talk) 15:31, 7 August 2019 (MDT)

I'm a fan of including those--if nowhere else, at least in the quotes! Harlow (talk) 16:50, 8 August 2019 (MDT)
Thanks! Sorry I didn't get back to the topic for a while, but putting it in the quotes is a good idea. I'll try it! Eruanna1875 (talk) 23:55, 9 September 2019 (MDT)

The Imagination Station - Book 4- Revenge of the Red Knight Audiobook

The AIO Club has released the Revenge of the Red Knight Audiobook --Mdb17 (talk) 14:18, 16 October 2019 (MDT)

Cooper Calhoun

There is a character page for 'Cooper Cahoun' although it should be 'Cooper Calhoun'. I am not quite sure how to correct it. I stumbled across the error while editing his father's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Puzzlemaster (talkcontribs)

Fixed! In the future, you can move the page using Special:MovePage/Cooper Cahoun. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 13:05, 28 October 2019 (MDT)

Thank you! puzzlemaster 13:46, 28 October 2019 (MDT)

AIO Club App Page

I was thinking with the recent update to the club app it would be appropriate to give the app it's own dedicated page. With a similar setup as the AIO Audio Player app, with version history, App icon history, screen shots from each version of the app, etc... I don't know if thats something someone would help me with, but I think it would be nice since we're the AIO Wiki. Aioduck29 (talk) 15:53, 23 November 2019 (MST)

Yes, I’ll create a page. - JaySmouse (talk) 07:02, 27 December 2019 (MST)

Current Podcasts

The section of the main page that says "current podcasts" reads that the latest podcast is the interview with Tucker Chandler when the latest podcast is really the interview with Kimmy Robertson. puzzlemaster (talk) 12:05, 7 December 2019 (MST)

That's because the latest podcast pages, Official Podcast 342 and Official Podcast 343, don't exist. If you could please create them, that would be great. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:21, 7 December 2019 (MST)
I did Official Podcast 342. First time creating a podcast page. If I did anything wrong, let me know because I am going to try to create the others later. puzzlemaster (talk) 18:15, 7 December 2019 (MST)


Is this site ever going to be hosted with a TLS/SSL certificate? As-is, the login form isn't protected, and user credentials could be grabbed by someone listening on the network. There are free certificates (letsencrypt), and here the wiki is still on plain http as we start the new decade in 2020. Sayno2quat (talk) 12:00, 17 December 2019 (MST)

thanks for the info I've ordered a certificate from them. should be installed soon Reddo (talk) 14:23, 30 December 2019 (MST)
it's installed now, I rewrote the htaccess file to always redirect to https, some pages may show up only partially secure due to images not being loaded over https but those errors should go away over time as the wiki's cache is cleared out and pages are regenerated, let me know if there's any weird issues that show up in the next few days Reddo (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2019 (MST)

AIO Wiki Site Sending Invalid response

I have had problems accessing the Wiki lately. I have been able to use it from Safari on an iPad, but that is painstaking and hard to use. In Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Edge it simply redirects to Google Search. In Chrome it displays this error message (screenshot: that says, "This page isn't working" and, " sent an invalid http response". I don't know much about websites and stuff, so I tried entering "" (aiowiki doesn't have an ssl certificate, right?) but the same happened.

Any help or answers would be appreciated, {{SUBST:subst|User:JaySmouse/Signature}} (talk) 22:01, 27 December 2019 (MST)

The server might have been down for a bit, I haven't changed anything on the backend for a few months now so it was probably just a temporary thing. How often have you been getting that error? Reddo (talk) 14:24, 30 December 2019 (MST)
I just got a similar error about 5 minutes ago, while I was rejecting invalid accounts. It's fine now for me. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 14:31, 30 December 2019 (MST)
that might have been me activating https Reddo (talk) 14:46, 30 December 2019 (MST)
Almost every time I try to access it on the described browsers. {{SUBST:subst|User:JaySmouse/Signature}} (talk) 06:32, 3 January 2020 (MST)

Editing the whits end page

--Cinerelsa1 11:22, 17 January 2020 (MST) can you edit the whits end page?

Yes. To do what, specifically? FlYiNg FiSh-YoShI SaN (talk) 12:34, 17 January 2020 (MST)
it seems very out of date in photos history and facts it doesn't really have the recent stuff --Cinerelsa1 16:56, 21 January 2020 (MST)