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Hello, OdysseyFan, and welcome to the Adventures in Odyssey Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need help, check out our welcome page or our town hall, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  blipadouzi 08:17, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

Welcome to Adventures in Odyssey Wiki! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 14:18, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


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user pages using wrong infobox


Product Images

Hello, I have noticed the product items has been your project. At some point, we should probably build a template and categories for all of the product images. Template:Location Image and Template:Cast and Crew Image is kind of the structure I envision. Since this has mainly been your project, I was wondering what you thought. I will not be able to get to it for awhile, since a) college and b) I actually have quite a few projects going on right now on the wiki (videos and adding links to amazon/iTunes). Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 00:05, 2 September 2016 (MDT)

Sounds good. Most of the images are mine or I'm updating with higher resolution from old stock with pics from my collection. Not sure it would be that hard to make the template but going through all the images... yeah. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 01:42, 2 September 2016 (MDT)
Actually, if you have uploaded most of the images, we can use Special:ListFiles/OdysseyFan or simply work through the product pages. Like I said, I have some other projects right now, but if I am around that's something I would eventually like to get done. Stop Wooton' Around (talk) 11:14, 2 September 2016 (MDT)

Version Differences

Hey, I'm wondering if you can help me out with a little something here. I'm looking for version differences in the release versions of episodes. Since you own a lot (if not all) of those compilation albums, do you know which ones have differences from the normal album versions? Examples: A Member of the Family, Part 1 has previews in the Gold Audio Series version, but not in the mainstream version; the Wooton's Whirled History collections feature different wraparounds by Wooton; I have a cassette tape with Thank You, God and Karen, and both have previews and an introduction by either Phil Lollar or Chuck Bolte.

i can look if you have a specific list but some items like wootons whirled history are still sealed. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 16:14, 8 September 2016 (MDT)
That would be great, thanks! but please don't open up sealed items; I know the merit of keeping them new Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:50, 8 September 2016 (MDT)
Wondering, is the Officer Harley version of “Rumor Has It” included in the Yellow Clamshell version of Album #3? Thanks Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 13:32, 26 September 2016 (MDT)

very much doubt it but I'll check. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 13:54, 26 September 2016 (MDT)

yeah it's not ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 13:45, 13 October 2016 (MDT)

Profile Merge

Would you like me to merge your two profiles (OdysseyFan and OdysseyFan) so that your current profile has a capital F? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 14:43, 16 October 2016 (MDT)

if you could please yes, I forget why it got messed up Years ago, and Reddo I think tried to fix it and it didn't work... ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 15:31, 16 October 2016 (MDT)
Actually, no, I have to be a Bureaucrat. I'd like to be one, but Reddo will probably say that I'm asking too much. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:27, 17 October 2016 (MDT)
hahaha sounds like something I should be, I would like to be able to delete these spam users I'm on at different times than you or reddo so that would help keep the place clean... ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 06:08, 18 October 2016 (MDT)
I guess that makes sense, but to delete the user pages you don't have to be a Bureaucrat, just a Sysop. I think that with your gigantic Products Project you deserve sysop privileges, but with only five bureaucrats on the wiki I can't say either one of us "deserves" to be one of those. By the way, any info you can glean about the live show from October's OAC documentary I'd really appreciate. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:22, 19 October 2016 (MDT)

do you want to be one? then you can block spammers and delete pages Reddo (talk) 06:58, 26 October 2016 (MDT)

Yes, I can handle that. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 13:45, 26 October 2016 (MDT)
wow, where has the time gone? sorry it took so long, life has been all over the place for me lately Reddo (talk) 18:59, 2 February 2017 (MST)


Just to let you know, I have seen your requests and will attend to them soon. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:10, 20 November 2016 (MST)

Oh by the way, you're not really supposed to delete stuff from your talk page. Make a subpage and then put in an archive nav box (see User talk:Reddo) Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 15:45, 23 November 2016 (MST)
I know it just wasn't relevant anymore because the Product section is built now. And I like a cleaner toc on my page... ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 15:57, 23 November 2016 (MST)

Iliad House

Do you happen to have this? If you do, can you help me write the transcript? I've already started Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 20:07, 10 February 2017 (MST)

I don't, and I don't think that a Transcript is needed on the AIOWiki ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 06:59, 11 February 2017 (MST)

A Perfect Testimony

How do we know that this one’s next? Also, would you be willing to go through “One More Name, Parts 1 - 3” and work on the cast list and notes and stuff? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 19:13, 1 March 2017 (MST)


I believe it's alright to make those edits. It adds life to the wiki, and it's not hurting anything. Besides, it helps get rid of stubs. I've authorized UnknownCaptain to continue. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:24, 16 March 2017 (MDT)

Putting text that says "No Information Available" is not information. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 18:38, 16 March 2017 (MDT)

If you look back through the past, it’s been our standard to just put that there anyway. I think that adding it would make the pages more standardized. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 15:50, 27 March 2017 (MDT)

Subcategories in Category:Products

Would it be possible for you to remove the subcategories from Category:Products? I’m working on a standardization project and having only one namespace in the category would help me out. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 15:48, 27 March 2017 (MDT)

I don't think so. That's how the Products are Categorized, Apparel, Gear, Etc. IS there some other way to do that besides Subcats? because I don't think 300+ Products can be organized any other way. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 17:26, 27 March 2017 (MDT)
I think if you remove [[Category:Products]] from the subcats, make new pages within the (Main) namespace with corresponding names to the cats, and put DPL on those pages to relay their corresponding categories, it'd work better. Kind of like what you did for Action Figures. So you can keep the subcats, just make them stop being subcats. Does that make sense? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:54, 27 March 2017 (MDT)

My wife said to tell you no, I don't see how that would work. If I'm in Category: Toys, It needs to appear under "Products" as a whole, It's a "Sub-Category" so why not use sub categories? ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2017 (MDT)
I’ve got a compromise. How about you make a new category: “All Products”, and code the Infobox to make every page with that box fall in that category. Then there wouldn’t be a problem with subcats. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 13:01, 28 March 2017 (MDT)
That Should work, if make it a hidden Cat will it still work for whatever you want to do? ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 15:58, 28 March 2017 (MDT)

Added that Category:All Products ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 10:28, 29 March 2017 (MDT)

Yeah, that works! One more thing: would it be possible to have ONLY subcats in Category:Products? I know it sounds weird, but think about it for a minute... Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:50, 29 March 2017 (MDT)
I changed my mind and am not going to be using All Products for my standardization. It will be used for other things, like Template:Number of. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:15, 30 March 2017 (MDT)

News talk:New Releases‎

By the way, you can just type in instead of doing what you were doing. Or you can enable "Purge Tab" under Preferences > Gadgets > Editing Gadgets. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:00, 29 March 2017 (MDT)

I did not know that thank you. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 18:51, 29 March 2017 (MDT)

{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} has a discrepancy

Houston, we have a problem!! When I use the magic word {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}, it yields 9,305. However, when I use the code I've put at {{NumberOfArticles}}, it yields 8000. An eight-page discrepancy! Where are the eight extra pages being counted in {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}??? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 12:39, 1 April 2017 (MDT)

No Idea, Possibly do to the Offset code? Maybe it drops 1 each time the Offset is used? see this page:$wgContentNamespaces ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 13:32, 1 April 2017 (MDT)

Possibly, but there are twelve offsets and a difference of eight. I'm cross-referencing User:Scientific Guy/Souper with Special:AllPages (hiding redirects) right now, while I listen to Album 59. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 13:43, 1 April 2017 (MDT)
It's nice to be accurate, but close enough I doubt anyone will count on their own and complain... ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 13:46, 1 April 2017 (MDT)
This is actually only for myself. I have to be familiar with every single page. I've gone over the lists, and there are no discrepancies, so I'm stumped. What I can do in the meantime (until Reddo comes back, probably) is use the template instead of the Magic Word. By the way, do you think the Main Page is too much? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 15:02, 1 April 2017 (MDT)
It was funny, but whenever you want to revert it I took a picture to archive it. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 15:06, 1 April 2017 (MDT)
I'll take it down when someone else mentions it or something. Can you think of any more big categories I can use to chop down the number 369 on my 'Souper' page? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 15:08, 1 April 2017 (MDT)

Is there a Category for Major/Minor Characters and Single-Episode Characters? ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 17:46, 1 April 2017 (MDT)

For now it's not useful to do it that way; I'll probably do that later. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:15, 1 April 2017 (MDT)

Discussion Questions

Why are you moving "Discussion Questions" under "Gallery" on episode pages? AIOrocks101 (talk) 15:19, 8 April 2017 (MDT)

Page flows better that way, it looks bad when blank so I figured moving was better than deleting. Probably not standard across all pages, but I'm sure we could fix that. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2017 (MDT)
Ok. AIOrocks101 (talk) 15:49, 8 April 2017 (MDT)


This is the AIO wiki. It's fine to have the episodes pages for LCD, but we don't need all these other pages, and it confuses the site and messes some things up. For example, on Townsend Coleman's page, it lists him being in 107 episodes, counting the LCD ones, and lists 1,2,3,4 without titles referring to the LCD ones. And look at the LCD character pages, they don't list the episodes right because the wiki isn't formatted to do that with LCD episodes. AIOrocks101 (talk) 16:21, 8 April 2017 (MDT)

Yes we need to Revamp the Infoboxes to fix those errors, but AIO is associated with LCD, with Jason Whittaker appearing. Ask the other admins, or I can make a poll to ask fans on Facebook but unless you want to create an LCD wiki or Audio Drama Wiki for Iliad House and everything else. I think it's closely associated enough to warrant pages. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 16:28, 8 April 2017 (MDT)
Glad you brought up Iliad House. My idea here is to make the LCD/IH pages not have any categories (except maybe Category:Iliad House or something). Does that work okay? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 12:57, 9 April 2017 (MDT)
I like that idea. Thanks. AIOrocks101 (talk) 13:07, 9 April 2017 (MDT)
I just had an idea. We could rename the LCD album and episode templates to be used for both LCD and IH, and we can make a new character template for LCD and IH characters. AIOrocks101 (talk) 13:59, 9 April 2017 (MDT)
Nice idea! I like it. Would you also be interested in helping me with my IH transcription? How do you think it's going so far? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 14:47, 9 April 2017 (MDT)
I haven't actually heard IH yet. I plan to get it soon, probably within the next month. AIOrocks101 (talk) 15:53, 9 April 2017 (MDT)

I was just using IH as an example, IH is no more related to Odyssey than DGL or Lamplighter Theatre, those dramas should have a page Like a "Website" info bos even with detailed info, but not more than once page. Infoboxes are ok. but they don't need categories, character pages or even episode/album pages, since they are unrelated. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 06:32, 10 April 2017 (MDT)

Can we Modify "Character Appearances" template to include "Other Series" or should we modify the Episode pull and make it a statis box? ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 06:58, 10 April 2017 (MDT)
I get the point. I have a list of radio dramas, and I’m only working on information on IH for now. Jason Whittaker’s page will be the only character page affected by the new system, so any templates we’d have to change would be staff pages. And you MUST listen to Iliad House! It is amazing! (JSYK, we'd probably move this discussion to the Town Hall if it gets any longer.) Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:22, 10 April 2017 (MDT)

Opening Move/Pawn's Play

Where did you find the titles? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 15:15, 16 April 2017 (MDT)

AIOWiki Podcast #0

It’s released! Could you post about it on the Facebook page? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 13:22, 7 May 2017 (MDT)

Quick Information

Following up the conversation on AIOrocks101's page, I'm interested to hear your take on this. Not me jumping on his work while he's working on it, but doing the work myself while he's away. Since the info is reliable, we need it on the wiki, not everyone knows about the Facebook page, and it's the best way to get it across to the fans, do you think it was a good idea to put up Rewinding the Big Picture even though AIOrocks was away? Thanks. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:26, 27 July 2017 (MDT)

That was another one that should never have been up earlier as "Finding" the big picture... inaccurate info should not be listed as facts on a page. Someone guessed at the title and got it wrong. "...inding the big picture" was acceptable and a link to the pic the info came from would have sufficed. Also while you all are posting info, and making new pages, but there are pictures you can copy and add to the page galleries that hasn't been done. script pages, new actors, etc. and you built new actor pages right? but did you see if they had an official page, IMDB link etc.? I had to go and create all the category pages on the back end. the less glamorous, but important part of running the wiki. It did seem like AIORocks was posting info before you were, you could work together via talk pages. or facebook. but I was monitoring the facebook feed as well, I could have created pages but I figured it would get done eventually. Also I am working on updating the Actual WIKIPEDIA page with these new actors/changes to the cast. the re-casting of Dr. Graham is my next change to add. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 07:00, 28 July 2017 (MDT)

That Someone was me. I'm not as strict on jumping to conclusions as I should be. I can see three times I was wrong on the AIOWiki Podcast: Friend or Foe is not by Bob Hoose, The Hand of Hope is not the title, and Album 64 is NOT Down to Earth (although on that last one I was guessing without any basis). Sorry; I'll get on myself for that in the future. So, the five things I should take out of this are:
  1. If someone else is currently working on a project, wait for him to finish before I improve.
  2. No jumping to conclusions!!!
  3. When new episodes are being announced, upload the pics in a "gallery" section.
  4. If needed categories don't exist, create them even if they may become empty and unused in the future.
  5. When creating an actor page, look him up on IMDB and his official page and add that too.
And you got the WP side. Did I cover everything? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:01, 28 July 2017 (MDT)

When You're In Love

I just transcribed the lyrics for this song; could you check it to make sure they are correct (e.g. "pants" and "shreds") and that the deleted ones are in the right place? Thanks Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:45, 2 August 2017 (MDT)

Also, a couple of episodes are missing from Weekly Schedule for 1998. Do you know which episodes these were? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 13:29, 6 August 2017 (MDT)
I know I keep asking you to help me with stuff, but could you take a look at the top section of my To-Do list and see if you could help me with it? Thanks Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:32, 10 August 2017 (MDT)
Kinda busy with the GITS Finale Tomorrow, and other stuff, but I'll see what I can do. I like the new infobox, planned to play with that, give it to a few users if we can...~ OdysseyFan (talk) 07:04, 11 August 2017 (MDT)

Albums Lead Section Markup

Hello, Aiow, OdysseyFan, and AIOrocks; I am having an incredibly hard time getting the auto-generated text for the series albums to work properly. User:Scientific Guy/Sandbox has the sentences formatted the way I want, and Template:Test has the code I tried to use. Do any of you know how to solve the problem?? Thanks Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 21:59, 1 September 2017 (MDT)

would it be easier without past tense, ie:

Release Date: March 10, 2017.

Release Date for digital download: March 5, 2017 and for CD: March 10, 2017.

Release Date for the AIOC: March 1, 2017 and for CD: March 10, 2017.

~ OdysseyFan (talk) 06:15, 2 September 2017 (MDT)

I agree easier, but it has to be in sentence form, because it's in the lead section. I have another idea; it's in the sandbox. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 08:45, 2 September 2017 (MDT)

AIO Street Team

Hi, OdysseyFan! This is Kungfunaomi from Odysseynerds. I'm reaching out to the other people with the AIOStreetTeam userbox as well, I'm requesting information about it to make an article for Odysseynerds. "Getting the scoop", if you will. Let me know if you're interested in interviewing over email, just to answer some questions. FlYiNg FiSh-YoShI SaN (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2017 (MST)

Sure thing you can reach me at ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2017 (MST)

RE: Infobox Inventions

Check.svg Done missing

close in "Last Episode" section. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:34, 10 January 2018 (MST)

Thanks, I knew it was something like that just couldn't see it. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 18:58, 10 January 2018 (MST)

Main Page boxes

May I switch the "New Releases" box with the "Random Quote" box on the main page? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 12:41, 20 January 2018 (MST)

Sounds good, looks like it's working, and it will be a static size unlike the random quotes... ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 13:52, 20 January 2018 (MST)


I can't put more pic's of Jason on my user page, I've tried to do the copy and paste thing, but it won't work. What am I going to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasoniscool (talkcontribs)

SIGN your Edits. can you explain what pictures you are trying to add? or just all pictures of Jason? ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 06:13, 15 February 2018 (MST)

Jasoniscool (talk) 11:54, 15 February 2018 (MST)

Potential Possibilities

Do you have the broadcast version of this episode? If so, could you check the wraparounds (theme, Chris's wrap-up) for version differences with the album version, please? Thanks Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 19:13, 24 February 2018 (MST)

The Good in People

What do you know about this episode? How do you know that it has Morrie? Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 09:57, 4 March 2018 (MST)

A Little Help With The AIO Street Team

Hey OdysseyFan! If I’m not mistaken, you are on the AIO street team, correct? Well, if you are, then I might need your help slightly. All I’m wondering is what was said about the meme contest today and what exactly will happen with it. My computer decided to crash right before that part and I may have somehow accidently animating something for it.. needless to say, I’m confused because I have no idea what anyone was talking about. Do you happen to remember what was said? Thanks for your time! AristaMaxwell (talk) 18:15, 16 March 2018 (MDT)

Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:Store

I am so sorry, I completely missed your comment on this. I am almost done, I still have to add audiobooks. I'll fill you in on how it works when I'm done. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 20:30, 23 March 2018 (MDT)

Okay, I'm done. I'd like to add in products, so if you'd like you can add buy links for all the available ones. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 18:13, 25 March 2018 (MDT)

they should be there, the 23 on the focus store and there are a few others on cbd/amazon. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 16:34, 26 March 2018 (MDT)


I'm just saying hi, and thank you for making my account, I've really enjoyed being on the wiki. thanks.Jasoniscool (talk) 00:25, 26 March 2018 (MDT)

Re:May Magazine

You're welcome. I didn't know about the NAVBOX until now.ConnieKendall fan  talk Proverbs 13:20He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm. (Guestbook) 18:10, 19 April 2018 (MDT)

New Year's Eve Live!

Question for you about this episode, since you attended the recording (which is awesome). What was the audience (and Will Ryan) laughing at when Walker Edmiston was using the "adding machine?" Was it just Walker's performance, or was something happening on stage that couldn't be heard? There's a pause before his line "that adding machine has a mind of its own," after which the audience goes nuts, which makes me suspect it was the latter. Crnel (talk) 11:52, 7 May 2018 (MDT)

Dave Arnold was doing Foley with an actual adding machine and went a bit crazy the paper wouldn't tear off etc. Walker ad-libbed that line about the adding machine and yes it was hilarious. ~ OdysseyFan (talk) 12:09, 7 May 2018 (MDT)

That's great. Thanks! Will add this to the episode notes. Crnel (talk) 12:14, 7 May 2018 (MDT)


please sign my GUESTBOOK?!?! Jasoniscool (talk) 00:19, 23 May 2018 (MDT)


Of course- sorry for not finishing the job yesterday. One thing, though: I need an admin to help me delete the "category" pages for both my "Lilly Graham" move (which I also need to cleanup) and my "Lucia Ortaga" move. I'll just apply the deletion templates for now. I might also contact User:Scientific Guy and User:Rachel Maxwell, because I'd like to clean this up as fast as possible. Thanks, Cartoon Nostalgia 07:34, 30 November 2018 (MST)

IS Secret Words

Would you be all right if we remove the secret words altogether? Even though they're not visible, anyone can find them by viewing the page source. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 15:50, 1 January 2019 (MST)

OK, got it! Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 16:02, 1 January 2019 (MST)

Tom Riley's barn

Should I create a page for Tom Riley's barn? TheAIOlover (talk) 16:56, 6 April 2019 (MDT)

Rescue on the River

You deleted the "October 8" in List of future releases on the part about Rescue on the River. In the page of the book, it says October 8. Should I change it back, or was that date wrong? TheAIOlover (talk) 18:33, 4 June 2019 (MDT)

no you added it to Album 67.OdysseyFan (talk) 19:13, 4 June 2019 (MDT)

Re: Previous Title

Yeah, "Working Title" is probably more accurate. I just copied it from the Episode Infobox, so that's why it said "Previous Title". Skylerbuck (talk) 19:43, 7 August 2020 (MDT)

The thing is though, there are a number of episodes on the Wiki with "Previous Title" in the infobox, and some of them probably are working titles. We could add "Working Title" to the infobox as well, and differentiate between previous and working titles. Skylerbuck (talk) 19:49, 7 August 2020 (MDT)
Probably should add a category with the tag so when it's used it easy to see, I only count 3 episodes with actual previous Titles: Treasure Hunt, Passages, and Kyds Radio. OdysseyFan (talk) 17:35, 9 August 2020 (MDT)

Re: process

This is why AIOWiki is a collaboration. I don't have time to do all the steps required to integrate a new product or a new page into the wiki. That has always been treated with respect by the other users, and those who have time can do the remaining steps. With all due respect, this is why Crnel left. We can't make wiki editing not fun. We need to help each other get through the final mile, which means some of us will only do partial work.

Carl (AioNews10808 Editor1) did a great job making the Refugees on the Run page, and instead of regressing in progress by deleting the page, perhaps a more constructive move would have been to do one of the steps that he didn't do. It's discouraging to hear that I didn't do enough, or that he didn't do enough. It makes me not want to be more active. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 14:11, 12 December 2020 (MST)