Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:Town Hall/100,000 Edits

This page is used for discussion of a celeberation of 100,000 edits on AIOWiki.

100,000 Edits

Well, I couldn't help noticeing that AIOWiki is a mere 1,100 edits away from 100,000 edits! Quite a milestone, to say the least! But, that's beside the point. What I wanted to say is this--I don't think that the editors of this site should pass by this historical event without at least a little fanfare, or some sort of special announcement. Personally, I don't think it would cut it to simply create a news item that goes like

"We've reached 100,000 edits! Special thanks to all our editors."

That kind of thing has been done at every 10,000 edits. I think there needs to be a little more fanfare than that. Something special needs to happen. Any ideas? Should the survey idea be brought back? MarvelousMarvin 15:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC) P.S. When is AIOWiki's birthday? Or has that already passed this year?

I've been watching this closely as well. Here are some ideas I thought of, that may be worth considering:

• Create a seperate page for the event and put it in the sitenotice.
• On the page, explain what 100,000 edits means, to visitors unfamiliar with the wiki framework.
• Post a screenshot of the Recent Changes with 100,000 edits.
• Provide some AIOWiki history. (We turned three on April 25.)
• Offer an in-depth list of statistics. Perhaps Reddo could grab some non-public ones off the server.
• Mention some of the editors and their work. Highlight the user that made the one hundred thousandth edit.
• Unveil some sort of new feature or section; however, we would have to work quite fast to put it together.

Erwin Springer [talk] 00:51, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I like that--especially the new feature/section, though I have no idea what it would be. Any idea about how long it will be before we are to 100,000? How long does 1000 or so usually take? Rachel Maxwell 03:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Rachel, I wouldn't give the 100,000, edits any more than a week to get here. In my observation, there is usally a three to four month span between every ten thousand edits and there's only about 1,000 more edits to go. So, again I wouldn't say any more than a week. MarvelousMarvin 05:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

yeah the big 100k is coming up soon, i don't think that we can really come up with a new feature in time for it but I'll think about it, if anyone has an idea i'll do my best to make it work. I think some history of the site would be good, I'll gladly provide some stats for the site (i have google analytics data that goes back till fall of 2008) as for the birthday of the site, the first logs on the server are from april 25 2007, but shadowpaw didn't announce it till May 6th so it's kind of both. Reddo 06:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

One idea for a feature that's ready is a monthly/bi-monthly poll Reddo 17:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

These ideas are great, guys! Erwin, I like all your ideas and think they should all be a go. From what I understand, you are saying that we should create not only a newsitem but a separate page commemorateing the event that would include all of your ideas?

This conversation will probably become a rather lengthy one. For this reason and for purposes of keeping track of several different aspects of this conversation, I'm spitting the page from now on into different topics. Should this conversation instead be moved to a new talk page with different sections and such for these varius topics?

05:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The topic has been moved to a new home here, where it can be more easily managed. Erwin Springer [talk] 13:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Highlighting some of the editors and their work

I don't have time write the news item myself, but some people I want to specifically point out whose work I've noticed are the following

• Stop Wooton Around--for his work with the categorys
• Rachel Maxwell--for doing alot of the leg work ealier on.
• Reddo--for his brain :) (for designing and coordinating all of a templates and the like)
• Shadowpaw--for creating the wiki
• NateDude24
• Erwin Springer
• Spiderman
• Blipadouzi

I couldn't think of anything specific for the last 4 guys, but I'm sure that Reddo and others can come up with more specifics. There are probably more specifics that can be added to the first four as well. I would say that whoever writes the news item should be sure to write it from an outsider's perspective. For instance, if Reddo writes it, he should be sure not to purposely leave himself out in order to be humble. Either that or the note should be group written. MarvelousMarvin 05:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

if we did this, we could assign each person another one to do. Or have it picked at random, who does who. Or have everybody chip in to do everybody but theirself. Themself. Their own thingy. Everybody could type up a little something about everybody but theirself (themself whatever) and we (I?) could compile it into one or two paragraphs. Rachel Maxwell 04:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Not all of these 8 people are around or have time to write notes out about who they would like thanked and for what--specifically Shadowpaw, Spiderman, and Blipaduozi. I think that we simply need more imput and suggestions about this from Nate, Erwin, maybe Wooton, and specifically Reddo. I'm curious to hear what they have to say. MarvelousMarvin 16:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I wrote up a quick summary for each editor; feel free to edit. Erwin Springer [talk] 14:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Is it alright if I add AriaCurzonFan? She's been doing a lot of work cleaning up episode pages and things like that. Rachel Maxwell 14:54, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Erwin Springer [talk]

What about Spiderman? I heard that he was once very active on the wiki. Should he be mentioned as well? Also, since American Eagle is an administrator, I'm assuming that he was also once very active. Is that true? Should he be added to the list as well? MarvelousMarvin 18:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I think Spiderman should be added. American Eagle was never an active user. He came and asked to be an administrator because he was very knowledgeable of the mediawiki software and wikitext. God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 01:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't know what Spiderman did on the wiki (he left right when I showed up), so could someone else who's been here that long (Reddo, Nate, or maybe Ewrin) type up a little something for him and add him ASAP? Thanks! MarvelousMarvin 02:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

New feature

Ideally this should be something bigger than a poll or a survey. Realistically? There might not have enough time to design something bigger. One thing that could be thrown together rather quickly though is a "Q&A section". People are often asking AIO trivia type questions on their talk pages or here on the town hall. This is AIOWiki and it is an "AIO reseach center" of sorts, but sometimes there is incomplete information. Why not fill that incomplete void with a section where people can ask their AIO questions and get an answer from the people who know within a few hours?

It is possibly something more for the ToO, but you have to have an ToO account to talk there, and on here, anyone can ask a question. It could also cause problems concerning trivia contests and the like, but that could be worked around. Anyway, it's just an idea. Something else can be done. There doesn't have to be just one feature; it is plausible and convenient to have several small one or some large and some small. MarvelousMarvin 05:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I know the poll idea isn't very big, but really it's the only thing i could think of, i used to have a lot of ideas but i made them all already :( but if anyone else has an idea i'll see what i can do :) the idea of making a place just to ask questions could be good though Reddo 06:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

another idea, I dunno how difficult it would be to format, or even how useful, but we could make family trees. I mean that actually look like trees: say, fir Eugene: with Leonard and Thelma at the top, Eugene and Everett beneath, Eugene linked to Katrina, her parents above that, you know, and we could dig a little and put in relatives that were only mentioned if we could only figure out where thy went. Just another idea to kick around. Rachel Maxwell 04:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Rachel, that would be cool; and it would also help to give a quicker understanding of how families were related, especially the McAlister family. Reddo, I think we should go ahead with the poll; I just think that we also need something else. By the way, is it possible to finish up the new episodes infobox format in time? I think that would be the biggest new feature that could be made! MarvelousMarvin 16:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The FAQ page, the poll, and the family tree are all great ideas, although the last one would take more work. An idea I came up with a while ago (that no one really latched onto) was the idea of a monthly newsletter written by us. We could provide AIO news, wiki news, highlight a section on the wiki, and possibly highlight a user and their work. I believe there is an extension that you can do this through as well. Erwin Springer [talk] 13:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Erwin, I think that's a good idea, I just don't know who we would have sending it out. God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 00:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Reddo, is there any way that we could make some sort of rich text editing, very similar to how some Wikia wikis have? I think it would greatly increase our number of editors, because code scares a lot of people. God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 00:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I had another idea that may be extremely impractical, but if we could work it I think it'd be a popular one: Real Time in Odyssey: all the references to real time in AIO: such as in The Homecoming when Eugene says "do you remember the grade-changing scandal from two years back" cementing Eugene's Dilemma at two real years previously. Operating on the assumption that the albums (if not the episodes) are in chronological order, we could work up a sort of timeline. A couple places we might could even get years. I know MarvelousMarvin's done some work looking into this; I dunno what you guys all think, and I doubt we could get anything done before the deadline anyway, but it's just a thought. I know the Scoop has that great timeline with when things happened, but this would be "AIO time". Again, just a thought. Rachel Maxwell 03:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm willing to take on the family tree project. It shouldn't be to much work. But how do we want to lay it out? Do we want to have pages that show specific family trees? Or should it be on character pages, showing the character fits into their family? Or should we create pages for each family and show the family in a tree there with other info and links? Maybe a combination of all the above? Thoughts? — Eugene [talk] 06:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Here are some ideas the wikipedia uses. We could try to trans-wiki one of those complex templates and adapt it. Erwin Springer [talk] 14:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I've been working up a "Real Time" spreadsheet with all dates, seasons and ages mentioned -- I'm sure we don't have time to actually do anything with it before the 100k, but would it be something practical to put into any sort of use? I have no idea how it would be coded or set up, but if there's any interest I'll be glad to get all the information if somebody else can set it up. Rachel Maxwell 03:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

May be we could create a timeline of events within the show. Erwin Springer [talk] 13:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

This could be cool! Rachel, if your plan is to take my "Odyssey time" theory a step farther into production, you can go ahead and do that. Though I will warn you: doing this project will take a really long time to get accurate. You have to listen to every single episode to get all the miniture details and work quite a while to evaluate all the information into a workable timeline. Here's a tip that may help: the assumption that the episodes or the albums are in chonological order is--in my opinion--incorrect. Often the albums and episodes will overlap and interlock with each other, especially in the later years of the show. As a general rule, the episodes and albums do drop in chonological order, but don't strictly abide by that rule, or you'll give yourself a major headache trying to figure out how the episode fit on the timeline. MarvelousMarvin 18:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

You're right -- what I meant was actually that they occur (more or less) in order of air-date. But you're right, a lot of them must overlap; I don't think I'm going to try to work out which. :D Rachel Maxwell 21:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Site history

Is there any way that this can be incorperated into the "About" page? It is probably time to rewrite that page. It badly needs work. MarvelousMarvin 05:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

May be if we write something for the page celeberating the event (probably Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:One Hundred Thousand Edits or somthing similiar.), it can be worked into that page. Personally, I'd like to see that page redirected to a page called Adventures in Odyssey Wiki, and conform it to other website articles. Erwin Springer [talk] 13:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree. MarvelousMarvin 18:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Logo

I know there are some handy graphic designers here. Would anyone be interested in creating a header for the event? (Which could be put in the sitenotice as well.) Erwin Springer [talk] 13:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Maybe this would be a good opportunity to update the AIO Wiki's logo with the new AIO logo? I've already put it together - it just needs to be uploaded. Since I am the one who designed the current logo, I'm fine with it being replaced. Just tell me where and when to upload the new one and I'll do it! — Eugene [talk] 03:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I think that that's a great plan, Eugene. I believe it hasn't been long enough to have another contest, but I do think we need to refresh the wiki logo with the new AIO logo. I would be glad to put something together for a header for the event. God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 23:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Just go ahead and upload it as a new version of File:WikiLogo.png. I don't think anyone would mind by now, Eugene. Erwin Springer [talk] 14:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I've uploaded the new logo. Now I guess Reddo has to update the image in the upper left-hand corner of the page? — Eugene [talk] 20:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that image references somewhere else on the ftp site. Erwin Springer [talk] 22:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I think we should wait to replace it until we've actually reached 100,000 edits. God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 22:34, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

yeah I'll upload it when we get to the big 100k Reddo 02:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

What do you guys think of the banner I made?

God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 22:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks great! Reminds me too -- would there be any way to have a list up of all the countries we've had visits from? Great logo. Rachel Maxwell 23:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

How's this? Top ten country percentages. God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 23:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I personally like the bannner shown above more than the banner that is currently on the 100,000 edits page. AIOCREFan 13:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Is there a version of the image that can be used in the sitenotice? We'll be there very soon. Erwin Springer [talk] 03:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

How's this? God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 03:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

New page

I just created the page Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:One Hundred Thousand Edits. The title can be changed if needed, but for now if anyone has anything they've written, throw it on the page and we can collectively get this thing done! Erwin Springer [talk] 13:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

News Item

{{Newsitem
|title=[[Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:One Hundred Thousand Edits‎|100,000 Edits!]]
|date={{subst:#timel: F d, Y}}
|text=[[File:100k banner.jpg|500px|link=Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:One Hundred Thousand Edits‎]]
}}

Erwin Springer [talk] 03:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking more on the lines of

{{Newsitem
|title=[[Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:One Hundred Thousand Edits|100,000 Edits!]]
|date={{subst:#timel: F d, Y}}
|text=On [Exact date & time], [User] made Adventures in Odyssey Wiki's 100,000th edit! This means that users (either registered or anonymous) have created or improved pages on the wiki over 100,000 times by clicking the "edit" button at the top of each and every page. [[Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:One Hundred Thousand Edits|Click here for more info]]
|image=100k-newsitem.png
|img_link1=Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:One Hundred Thousand Edits
}}

God Bless ~ Nate ~ Talk 04:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Even better! Erwin Springer [talk] 13:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC)