Talk:Castles and Cauldrons

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I just want to clarify this bit: Whether or not Shalman was in any way real, Len clearly thought that he was, which would explain the "fantastical language" involved in "summoning" him. He certainly wouldn't be the first character to described fantastically, especially in a fantasy setting. (I don't know about any "boards used to summon demons", so I don't know what to say about that, but Whit hadn't seen it when he got that feeling of impending disaster.) - Caswin 01:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

  • If no one objects, I'd like to pull the references. (For future reference, I feel like I should note that any part of this article that refers to demons was written by someone else.) - Caswin 10:54, 15 December 2011 (MST)

Confusion over meaning of this episode

It's rather puzzling what Focus on the Family's position actually is on fantasy or RPGs. On the one hand, this "Castles and Cauldrons" thing seems for all intents and purposes to be a characterization of Wizards of the Coast products, especially Dungeons and Dragons. But on the other hand, Focus seems to be strongly supportive of Inklings fantasy (Lewis and Tolkien) and of "imagination" with the "Imagination Station" stuff and so forth, and it isn't made clear where is the line, if any, between what they disapprove of and are speaking out against in making this episode, and what they approve of. So the end result is just confusion.

If I'd written this episode, I'd have had two different fantasy clubs in town, one being good and the other bad, and would have endeavored to show where the difference lies. But instead we just hear "fantasy is bad / RPGs are bad" in a very vague and general kind of way.


I might be able to help with the overhaul on this page. Can I try to help? ConnieKendall fan  talk Proverbs 13:20He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm. (Guestbook) 23:03, 23 May 2018 (MDT)

I'll help...

I'll help with the overhaul, if you want me to. Let me know if I can help, thanks! Jasoniscool talk (Guestbook) 00:20, 24 May 2018 (MDT)

Thanks for the offer, guys! If you'd like to help, comment here about the changes you'd like, and I'll put them in. Usually I'd just let you edit the page, but this is going to be tricky to do. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 17:09, 24 May 2018 (MDT)

Ok! I have an idea, change the last sentence in the overview, what it says is biased. I will look at the page again to get more ideas, I hope I can help a lot with this project, it's probably the biggest thing I've seen on the wiki. I want to do everything I can to help! Jasoniscool talk psalm 1:6For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish.  (Guestbook) 23:44, 24 May 2018 (MDT)

Check.svg Done Also, check and make sure
is what you have in your signature in preferences. Scientific Guy (talk / AIOC Episode Timeline) 14:38, 25 May 2018 (MDT)


I think the way the page is now is much better than the way it was before. As Scientific Guy put it, it doesn't seem to be "glorifying" the game at all anymore. It also seems to be way more accurate. ConnieKendall fan  talk Proverbs 13:20He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm. (Guestbook) 13:19, 7 January 2019 (MST)